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NickinOX Sailing country. 23 Jan 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by mattteo Do you have something personal against me? Do I make you feel uncomfortable or in a certain way? I provided almost 200 names of players that are good options on the market. You keep throwing into my face that I don't know them personally. You don't understand the meaning of "being options in the market". No, I'm not their manager. But naming those players was a lot more than I've seen you do. You just comment on my posts and pick on things just because you feel threatened by me somehow. relax, stay off the thread if you don't like it Touchy! I think it's funny how thin skinned you are when challenged or teased. You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m. Repeatedly you were asked, by me and others, how you knew for a fact that they were unhappy and available, we got a bunch of abuse in return. So go on, explain how you knew that for a fact. You can't can you: hence the abuse. Given that your claim was patently false, I was wondering if your new claim was true, or like the previous one: made up. If you try to swerve the issue by saying you listed players, or I didn't list players--to cloud the issue--all that shows, is you are full of it. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 23 Jan 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Do you have something personal against me? Do I make you feel uncomfortable or in a certain way?

I provided almost 200 names of players that are good options on the market. You keep throwing into my face that I don't know them personally. You don't understand the meaning of "being options in the market". No, I'm not their manager. But naming those players was a lot more than I've seen you do. You just comment on my posts and pick on things just because you feel threatened by me somehow.

relax, stay off the thread if you don't like it

Touchy!

I think it's funny how thin skinned you are when challenged or teased. You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m. Repeatedly you were asked, by me and others, how you knew for a fact that they were unhappy and available, we got a bunch of abuse in return. So go on, explain how you knew that for a fact. You can't can you: hence the abuse.

Given that your claim was patently false, I was wondering if your new claim was true, or like the previous one: made up. If you try to swerve the issue by saying you listed players, or I didn't list players--to cloud the issue--all that shows, is you are full of it.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Jan 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle I don't think we will play 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 when Wilf returns. Simply because Wilf is our best player and his best position is right wing...he would put a shift in for the team in any position you asked him to play but you wont get a performance out of him that could win us a game...which right now at right wing he is capable of doing. Away from home i can see SA playing more defensive minded in the hope of picking up draws. But I do think that he sees Wilf as someone that if he gets the best out of could save us...just from his comments made before Wilf left. Yes. 3-5-2 until a left back comes in and maybe away. Townsend will be sold or loaned out when Zaha returns. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Jan 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I don't think we will play 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 when Wilf returns.

Simply because Wilf is our best player and his best position is right wing...he would put a shift in for the team in any position you asked him to play but you wont get a performance out of him that could win us a game...which right now at right wing he is capable of doing.

Away from home i can see SA playing more defensive minded in the hope of picking up draws. But I do think that he sees Wilf as someone that if he gets the best out of could save us...just from his comments made before Wilf left.

Yes. 3-5-2 until a left back comes in and maybe away.

Townsend will be sold or loaned out when Zaha returns.

COYP

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NickinOX Sailing country. 23 Jan 17 1.06pm
Originally posted by bexleydave Schlupp is not a CM, so comparisons with Cabaye (who isn't exactly universally lauded on here) are meaningless and I can't recall seeing Townsend doing that for us, can you? Matteo clearly knows him personally, and can attest that he is perfectly happy to stay and do that three times a match if he is sufficiently loved by Big Sam. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 23 Jan 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Schlupp is not a CM, so comparisons with Cabaye (who isn't exactly universally lauded on here) are meaningless and I can't recall seeing Townsend doing that for us, can you?

Matteo clearly knows him personally, and can attest that he is perfectly happy to stay and do that three times a match if he is sufficiently loved by Big Sam.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 23 Jan 17 1.10pm
Originally posted by NickinOX Matteo clearly knows him personally, and can attest that he is perfectly happy to stay and do that three times a match if he is sufficiently loved by Big Sam. Fair enough, I can't argue with that Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 23 Jan 17 1.10pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

Matteo clearly knows him personally, and can attest that he is perfectly happy to stay and do that three times a match if he is sufficiently loved by Big Sam.

Fair enough, I can't argue with that

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Icepick Tony Chester 23 Jan 17 1.14pm
Originally posted by mattteo He is quality, but not THAT MUCH quality. He could develop into a good wingback, but they paid for him the same fee they paid for Townsend. And Schlupp could never do what Townsend does. He was pretty much brought to replace Townsend When you see Schlupp doing this, let me know. [Link] Or this: [Link] Ummmm....pretty sure there are a few from distance in there? Just saying. [Link] "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 23 Jan 17 1.14pm

Originally posted by mattteo

He is quality, but not THAT MUCH quality. He could develop into a good wingback, but they paid for him the same fee they paid for Townsend. And Schlupp could never do what Townsend does. He was pretty much brought to replace Townsend

When you see Schlupp doing this, let me know.

[Link]

Or this:

[Link]

Ummmm....pretty sure there are a few from distance in there? Just saying.

[Link]

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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Nobbybm Dartford 23 Jan 17 1.17pm
Originally posted by mattteo He is quality, but not THAT MUCH quality. He could develop into a good wingback, but they paid for him the same fee they paid for Townsend. And Schlupp could never do what Townsend does. He was pretty much brought to replace Townsend When you see Schlupp doing this, let me know. [Link] Or this: [Link] There are endless vids of Schlupp's goals/assists etc too, so what. The reason we only paid £12m for Townsend was because that was the release clause in his contract - seemed odd at the time that nobody else was interested (but maybe we now know why?). From what I saw on Saturday Schlupp has more than enough both from a defensive and work rate perspective to offset what he might not (as yet) have offensively compared with Townsend. Some of his best performances were in Leicester's relegation battle so he's likely to be more of what we need right now than a highly talented sulk. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Nobbybm

Dartford 23 Jan 17 1.17pm

Originally posted by mattteo

When you see Schlupp doing this, let me know.

[Link]

Or this:

[Link]

There are endless vids of Schlupp's goals/assists etc too, so what.

The reason we only paid £12m for Townsend was because that was the release clause in his contract - seemed odd at the time that nobody else was interested (but maybe we now know why?).

From what I saw on Saturday Schlupp has more than enough both from a defensive and work rate perspective to offset what he might not (as yet) have offensively compared with Townsend.

Some of his best performances were in Leicester's relegation battle so he's likely to be more of what we need right now than a highly talented sulk.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Selhurstboys Basel 23 Jan 17 1.17pm
Totally disagree with this negative thread. I thought we looked much better on Saturday and if it weren't for the Schlupp fiasco I reckon we would've got a point. What bothered me though was when we turned the ball over in our own half, whether it was the keeper collecting the ball, a goal kick or a free kick, that we never broke at any pace letting Everton get well organised in defence, especially in the secomd half. Or am I just not as good a football tactician as everybody else on here?
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Selhurstboys

Basel 23 Jan 17 1.17pm

Totally disagree with this negative thread. I thought we looked much better on Saturday and if it weren't for the Schlupp fiasco I reckon we would've got a point.
What bothered me though was when we turned the ball over in our own half, whether it was the keeper collecting the ball, a goal kick or a free kick, that we never broke at any pace letting Everton get well organised in defence, especially in the secomd half. Or am I just not as good a football tactician as everybody else on here?

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 23 Jan 17 1.21pm
3-5-2 is definitely out dated. Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 23 Jan 17 1.21pm

3-5-2 is definitely out dated.

Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Nobbybm Dartford 23 Jan 17 1.27pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch 3-5-2 is definitely out dated. Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers Exactly. Yesterday was a lesson in how to make that formation work to give your players a rest.. Folk have praised Hull but I don't think Chelski got out of 2nd gear that often. It simply allowed them to sit there & let Hull run around with the ball, mostly in their own half or the middle of the pitch, then break forward when the opportunity arose. We don't need a rest as such but if we can contain sides like that then it'd be a big step in the right direction. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 23 Jan 17 1.27pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

3-5-2 is definitely out dated.

Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers

Exactly. Yesterday was a lesson in how to make that formation work to give your players a rest.. Folk have praised Hull but I don't think Chelski got out of 2nd gear that often. It simply allowed them to sit there & let Hull run around with the ball, mostly in their own half or the middle of the pitch, then break forward when the opportunity arose.

We don't need a rest as such but if we can contain sides like that then it'd be a big step in the right direction.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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mattteo 23 Jan 17 1.32pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch 3-5-2 is definitely out dated. Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers Look at Sunderland and Hull now. They're in relegation zone. These are the only 3 teams who have constantly played the 3 central defenders system this year. One is first, the other 2 are in the relegation zone. What does that say?
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mattteo

23 Jan 17 1.32pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

3-5-2 is definitely out dated.

Chelsea were killing the league until they switched formation, look at them now. Losers

Look at Sunderland and Hull now. They're in relegation zone. These are the only 3 teams who have constantly played the 3 central defenders system this year. One is first, the other 2 are in the relegation zone.
What does that say?

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Icepick Tony Chester 23 Jan 17 1.38pm
Originally posted by mattteo Look at Sunderland and Hull now. They're in relegation zone. These are the only 3 teams who have constantly played the 3 central defenders system this year. One is first, the other 2 are in the relegation zone. What does that say? That the one at the top has far superior players to the 2 in the relegation zone? "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 23 Jan 17 1.38pm

Originally posted by mattteo

That the one at the top has far superior players to the 2 in the relegation zone?

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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mattteo 23 Jan 17 1.39pm
Originally posted by NickinOX Touchy! I think it's funny how thin skinned you are when challenged or teased. You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m. Repeatedly you were asked, by me and others, how you knew for a fact that they were unhappy and available, we got a bunch of abuse in return. So go on, explain how you knew that for a fact. You can't can you: hence the abuse. Given that your claim was patently false, I was wondering if your new claim was true, or like the previous one: made up. If you try to swerve the issue by saying you listed players, or I didn't list players--to cloud the issue--all that shows, is you are full of it. You're making things up and silly accusations. Quote to where I said that or be proven a liar. What are you expecting of me (or anyone who suggests players), to go door to door and talk to them personally to listen to why they're unhappy? I provided a list of players who should be unhappy because they're not getting playing time. It's up to the club to check how unhappy they are and if they can be persuaded to join. Really, I literally give you an entire list which YOU could not pull off in a week, let alone understand, and you still clinge onto little, puerile things like "how do you know they're unhappy?". Jeez, some people will never be sattisfied.....
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mattteo

23 Jan 17 1.39pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

Touchy!

I think it's funny how thin skinned you are when challenged or teased. You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m. Repeatedly you were asked, by me and others, how you knew for a fact that they were unhappy and available, we got a bunch of abuse in return. So go on, explain how you knew that for a fact. You can't can you: hence the abuse.

You're making things up and silly accusations. Quote to where I said that or be proven a liar.

What are you expecting of me (or anyone who suggests players), to go door to door and talk to them personally to listen to why they're unhappy?
I provided a list of players who should be unhappy because they're not getting playing time. It's up to the club to check how unhappy they are and if they can be persuaded to join.

Really, I literally give you an entire list which YOU could not pull off in a week, let alone understand, and you still clinge onto little, puerile things like "how do you know they're unhappy?".
Jeez, some people will never be sattisfied.....

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