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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Jan 17 7.45pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by soulboy

Can I have some of what you are smoking??

I thought Townsend was playing for Arsenal...number of errors he made

Funny I thought he had a s***e game too.

 


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Shifty97 Flag Croydon 01 Jan 17 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

GK: Vorm, Ruffier, Ochoa, M'bolhi (but not necessarily Palace's weak spot as Mandanda is world class)

RB: Weiser, Janmaat, Figueiras, Layun, Yedlin, Smolnikov, A. Vidal, Esgaio

CB: Ginter, Mbemba, Federico Fernandez, Caceres, Papadopoulos, Cristian Zapata, Abdennour (would cost more than 10 mil, but is behind Mangala and Garay at Valencia and they might sell), M. Sakho, Rakitsky, Nkoulou, Bastos, Kabasele

LB: Gibs, Rausch, Brady, Ali Adnan, Plattenhardt, Antonelli, Coentrao, C. Erkin, A. Moreno, Augustinsson, L. Ibanez, Jefferson

DM/ CM: Pascal Gross, Hiljemark, Giaccherini, M. Fernandez, Onazi, Jozabed, H. Herrera, van Ginkel, Rupp, Rode, Bertolacci, Poli, B. Cesar (Benfica, also qualifies as left back and left wing), Muntari, Koziello, de Guzman, R. Pardo

Right footed winger: Depay, Hermann, Deulofeu, Njie, Mina, Canos, M. Niang (Milan want to sell for disciplinary reasons), Ntep, Susaeta, Samperio, Khazri, Younes (Ajax), Carillo, Carlos Mane , Ola John (but you'll just go "what? he's in the Championship playing for a bad team and injured", A. Bueno

Left footed winger: Ben Arfa, P. Sarabia, I. Falque, G. Tore, Kishna, Refaelov, Toral, Didavi, M. Gonzalez, C. Vela, Rebic, H. Costa, Alessandrini, Melgarejo, Ozbiliz, Raphina (not the Barcelona one, the one playing in Portugal), Cornet, Cartabia, Cheryshev, J. Murphy (Norwich- they play the right footed twin but not the left footed one, who is, in my opinion, even better), Atsu, R. Alvarez, Berghuis, Hernani, Medeiros, Quintero

Second striker: El Shaarawy, Stindl, Junuzovic, E. Vargas, Marega, Niasse (Everton want him out for disciplinary reasons), S. Long, Iturbe, Taison, Vydra, L. Vibe, Afobe, Dicko, Araujo

Striker: N. Petersen, D. Zapata, Muriel, P. Cisse, O. Martins, D. Pabon, Ighalo, Gestede, A. Ramos, Locadia, Karelis, Emenike, G. Hooper, Enrich, Baston, Aggiretxe

All of the above either don't play as starters anymore or play as starters in teams that have problems and are willing to sell for a fee less that what they would deserve. All of the above are accomplished to a level. Now I can't compare a rising sensation like Santi Mina of Valencia with Hermann of Moenchengladbach. But Santi Mina has scored and assisted 18 times in his last 3.300 minutes in La Liga. That's promising.
You will say that even Derby wants Vydra out because he doesn't score and that Ben Arfa has been in the Premier League and hasn't confirmed and neither had Iturbe.

Then I'd have to make a long post about how Vydra scored and assisted 29 in the 12/13 Championship edition and 23 times in the 14/15 Championship edition. He's just going through a tough period and, notice, he's not that high on the list, but his assets like pressing and recovering put him there.
Then, I'd have to explain how Iturbe only played 50 minutes in the Premier League and that if you don't give someone time then you can't judge that player.

And I'd have to tell you that Ben Arfa scored and assisted 27 times in 4.900 minutes and that is better than most attacking midfielders who play in mid-table if not high-ranking teams and he is in no way a Newcastle flop even though pundits have characterized him as such. And last year he almost took Nice to first place in France after Newcastle tossed him away. And this year Unay Emery will also throw him away. He was a free transfer so I doubt they'd be asking for much. At the amounts they have, they probably don't even care for 2-3 millions and would let him go on a free if someone would just support his wages.


And all this is disregarding the players who would cost around 15-20 millions, but would most probably decline to come to Palace, like Aurier, Gonzalo Castro, Matuidi, Ward Prowse, Robben, Tadic, Ghezal, Immobile, Bas Dost.


And here I wasted 10 minutes of my time to write this for some unfaithful who won't even understand what I'm talking about.......

Little is your faith people! I know all this and much more, but if I don't have the audience to discuss.......why bother?

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Edited by mattteo (01 Jan 2017 7.32pm)


Im not going to lie, I do not know every single player on this list but firstly the majority of these players would cost way more than 10 mil and would high wage bills.

Secondly many of these players would not leave their current clubs just because they are not starting every week

Thirdly if you are talking about Robbie Brady, he is not even a left back, he is a sh*t winger who Norwich are currently playing in that position and seen as you seemto be so agaisnt playing Townsend on the right and Kelly at left back, this suggestion doesn't really make sense

Fourthly, many of these players are not improvements on the players that we already have

Fithly, I doubt that this isn't just copied and pasted from fifa or an article

There are some good players on this list who I agree would do well at Palace but saying that we have poor players in our team so we should get rid of them all and build a new team cos there are 200 better players does not make sense, the world does not work that way. But you sould email this list to big Sam because I'm sure he hasn't got any idea of who he wants to buy.

 

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mattteo Flag 01 Jan 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97


Im not going to lie, I do not know every single player on this list but firstly the majority of these players would cost way more than 10 mil and would high wage bills.

Secondly many of these players would not leave their current clubs just because they are not starting every week

Thirdly if you are talking about Robbie Brady, he is not even a left back, he is a sh*t winger who Norwich are currently playing in that position and seen as you seemto be so agaisnt playing Townsend on the right and Kelly at left back, this suggestion doesn't really make sense

Fourthly, many of these players are not improvements on the players that we already have

Fithly, I doubt that this isn't just copied and pasted from fifa or an article

There are some good players on this list who I agree would do well at Palace but saying that we have poor players in our team so we should get rid of them all and build a new team cos there are 200 better players does not make sense, the world does not work that way. But you sould email this list to big Sam because I'm sure he hasn't got any idea of who he wants to buy.

I NEVER said the club should buy them all. It's a list of unhappy players, who COULD be tempted into coming and from clubs who might actually sell them cheapER than the modern, average prices in England.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 01 Jan 17 8.26pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I NEVER said the club should buy them all. It's a list of unhappy players, who COULD be tempted into coming and from clubs who might actually sell them cheapER than the modern, average prices in England.

How do you know that they are unhappy?

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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bicycle repair man 01 Jan 17 8.28pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Sensible move from Sam.Take off three key players and save them for Tuesday,go at Swansea all guns blazing in what is the most important game of the season so far.

 

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tillysosser Flag far far away 01 Jan 17 8.31pm Send a Private Message to tillysosser Add tillysosser as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

This manager should be freakin' crucified (well, figuratively, of course)

He's worse than the last one. Didn't chabge a thing, still playing with Kelly and Ward (a right footed player) as wingbacks.

Townsend and Cabaye were amazing against Arsenal up to this minute (well, amazing for Palace's level). They're the ones who have run the most and covered the most ground. They can absolutely press and compete at this level. Cabaye in the center is essential. Benteke wouldn't press if Cabaye wouldn't give him the impulse.

You just can't, absolutely CAN'T, substitute one of those players when the team is pushing for agoal and getting back into the game.

the way the team played we was never going to win that, not even with 15 players on the pitch

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Jan 17 8.33pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97


Im not going to lie, I do not know every single player on this list but firstly the majority of these players would cost way more than 10 mil and would high wage bills.

Secondly many of these players would not leave their current clubs just because they are not starting every week

Thirdly if you are talking about Robbie Brady, he is not even a left back, he is a sh*t winger who Norwich are currently playing in that position and seen as you seemto be so agaisnt playing Townsend on the right and Kelly at left back, this suggestion doesn't really make sense

Fourthly, many of these players are not improvements on the players that we already have

Fithly, I doubt that this isn't just copied and pasted from fifa or an article

There are some good players on this list who I agree would do well at Palace but saying that we have poor players in our team so we should get rid of them all and build a new team cos there are 200 better players does not make sense, the world does not work that way. But you sould email this list to big Sam because I'm sure he hasn't got any idea of who he wants to buy.

He's not saying sell them all, but improve the team/squad. If you think we have a good enough squad, why didn't we win today? New manager *bounce* and all that? It hasn't worked! Our players are not good enough, as a complete team, whoever manages. We have better players with injuries, but we need a better squad.

They played better football under Pardew than today. Absolutely shocking today.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Jan 17 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Sensible move from Sam.Take off three key players and save them for Tuesday,go at Swansea all guns blazing in what is the most important game of the season so far.

If Pardew had done that, you would have called him something quite nasty.

 


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bicycle repair man 01 Jan 17 8.41pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

If Pardew had done that, you would have called him something quite nasty.

Wow a psychic poster.

 

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lefty27 Flag ipswich 01 Jan 17 8.46pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

We didn't win today because we were playing arsenal away. We have a good enough squad to be competitive and avoid relegation. That's a realistic target for a club our size. Pardew left because we were dropping points against teams we have to pick up points against if we are to stay up, not because we were beaten by Man U and Chelsea.
little to soon for I told you so, maybe if we lose on Tuesday after being 4-3 up with 10 Mins to go, maybe then you can tell us all we were wrong to lose faith in Pards.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Jan 17 8.49pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Wow a psychic poster.

You're telling me you didn't have something to say about Pardew bringing on Mutch or Campbell?

 


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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 01 Jan 17 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Mutch is getting game time to get a sale done. Shop window and all that.

At least I hope that's why.

 

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