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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 16 1.16pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

My opinion ;

Gomes was a minimum yellow card. And if that had been an outfield player, a straight red.

As for the other main talking points ;

Stupid penalty conceded by Delaney - deserved the card
Zaha - seen those given, seen them waved away. But a yellow for diving ? Just another Clattenberg photo opportunity.

Overall, a standard Clattenberg performance when officiating a Palace game.

But I do give him credit for ignoring the efforts of the Watford players to get Benteke a second yellow.

 


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cannoneagle Flag 27 Dec 16 1.17pm Send a Private Message to cannoneagle Add cannoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

So why wasn't a yellow given Willo and yet he gave Delaney one plus a penalty, again no consistency and with arguably (very) with the leagues best ref in charge?

Don't worry with Willo anymore, he's just on the wind up, if Clatterf*** said Man Utd play in blue, he'd say I understand why he thought that!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 16 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by cannoneagle

Don't worry with Willo anymore, he's just on the wind up, if Clatterf*** said Man Utd play in blue, he'd say I understand why he thought that!

I can assure you this is NOT the case.Just giving my honest opinion.

At the end of the day when Mark's performance is analysed as part of a 'Forensic' analysis, which is normal, they might decide that a card should have been awarded, all I am doing is giving my opinion based on what I have seen.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 27 Dec 16 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I think 'Mark Clattenburg, it's all about you' is absolutely spot on and in no way insulting, more a singing statement of fact. He is biased.

It's a self fulfilling prophesy

 

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cannoneagle Flag 27 Dec 16 1.30pm Send a Private Message to cannoneagle Add cannoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I can assure you this is NOT the case.Just giving my honest opinion.

At the end of the day when Mark's performance is analysed as part of a 'Forensic' analysis, which is normal, they might decide that a card should have been awarded, all I am doing is giving my opinion based on what I have seen.

Well here is the truth.....the goalkeeper was committed so made a decision.to pre b ent a goal and accept the consequences. He made the right call based on Benteke's pathetic attempt at the penalty. However, he knew he was going to make the foul.....i.e. A booking at least.

Why you can't just admit that is proof that you are just trying to provoke people.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 16 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by cannoneagle

Well here is the truth.....the goalkeeper was committed so made a decision.to pre b ent a goal and accept the consequences. He made the right call based on Benteke's pathetic attempt at the penalty. However, he knew he was going to make the foul.....i.e. A booking at least.

Why you can't just admit that is proof that you are just trying to provoke people.

I could argue they are provoking me !

At the end of the day I respect the opinion of others but I disagree with them.All I am doing is giving you my opinion that's all.I am certainly not taking an alternative position as an act of provocation or to stimulate any sort of debate.I hope you can accept this.

Anyway I am going out shortly so HOL will be a "Willo Free" zone for a while !


Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2016 1.36pm)

 

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 27 Dec 16 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Nobody would have been screaming "outrage" if Clattenburg had given Gomes a red card.... clumsy or not intentional... he caught Benteke around knee height and it deserved a red.

To see that Clattenburg hadn't even given him a yellow was infuriating yet again especially when later on he gave Delaney a yellow for his penalty infringement.

This so called impartial arbiter of the laws of our game needs investigating as to why CPFC always end up on the wrong end of injustice every match he officiates in involving our club.

"bad luck" is supposed to even itself out, but when Clattenburg is involved we constantly suffer from his incompetence or deliberate application not in our favour.

Without even giving it much thought I can cite yesterday, last year's FA Cup final and WBA away 2 seasons ago where we were the victims of major refereeing injustice by clattenburg's application of the laws.

In the WBA game he allowed Dawson a free rein to inflict GBH on Speroni with his elbow FFS.

PS - this is a statement of my thoughts and not an invitation to Trollo or anybody else to bore me to death with how great "Mark" is and how he is much maligned by Palace fans.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (27 Dec 2016 11.07am)

I'm actually beginning to believe in conspiracy theories about c***enburg now. How is he allowed to rewrite the law book, especially against us.
In the cup final TWO last man fouls were rewarded ( yes the right word) with yellow cards against the laws of the game. Bent or scared of "ruining" the final? You decide?
Yesterday Gomes volleyed Benteke, high and late in the side of the knee, endangering an opponent, yet all the pathetic mouthpieces on the sports desks can bang on about is last man bollocks, so correct to not red card him. Benteke could of had his season ended by that tackle/assault, yet again c***enburg decided to apply his own reward to the player. Anywhere else on the field by an outfielder and that's a red, keeper isn't a special case, so red all day long.
As for the pathetic booking of a player bundled over in the area, sorry just smacks of an agenda to me now. How many times do we see a fb stuck in a tight corner, stop in front of a winger, initiate the contact and throw himself to the ground, as the wingers always seem to oblige? How many times is the foul not given? Never.
Zaha slowed down to initiate contact and the moron obliged. It was an unbelievably stupid decision by the defender and yet again that c*** rewarded him. Outside the box I believe the coward would of given us the kick, but to justify his cowardice he booked a player for no reason.
Like all wingers Wilf looks for penalties, it's his job, yet this season he should of won about 5 by now, yet challenges have gone unpunished and he has been punished instead. He's on course for 3 consecutive seasons of the prems most fouled, yet he now has the unfair reputation put on him by pathetic refs and pundits with their own little agendas. He's constantly fouled by committee, yet getting one given against you is getting rarer by the game.
Whether we deserved a win or not ( we didn't) we should be getting worried about the consistantly poor/cowardly/bent performances of the officials at our games. Are they all on far eastern betting syndicates books?

 


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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 27 Dec 16 3.22pm

I thought it was a terrible tackle.

deserved a yellow just for being so reckless. Anywhere else on the pitch he would have got a yellow. Especially if he was alan Pardew and nutted someone in the 'technical area'.

~It might well have been an 'accident', but I tried that plea once and I still got three points on my license and the stigma of being convicted for 'Driving Without Due Care and Attention'

I think he should have got a red, my logic being:

He plays for watford
I support Palace.


As further evidence, M'Lud, I would like to draw the court's attention to evidence I will circulate now.

Item 1. Shows Damien Delaney getting a yellow card, while conceding a penalty. You will see from the photograph that the Watford player does not receive a pianful kick to his knee

Item 2. This photographic series shows Wilfred Zaha - of CPFC - dribbling [A footballing erm for running with the ball at his feet, M'Lud, a duty at which Zaha excels}.... yes, dribbling into the Watford area. He is, we shall argue, brought down by a Watford player, who does not play the ball.
The second photo in the series shows Mr Clattenberg stop the game.
The third photograph shows Mr Clattenberg give a free kick against the victim
The final piece of pictorial evidence, Photo 4, shows Clattenberg issuing a yellow card to Mr Zaha.


Your Honour, I move that the whole game was a mis-trial, and I call for a full public inquiry into the behaviour and competence of Mr Clattenberg.

The defence rests

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 27 Dec 16 3.41pm

Originally posted by fish mitten

For me a red card. Yes he's going away from goal, but it's the nature of the challenge. No attempt to get the ball. He just kicks Benteke and if that was a outfield player doing that it would be a red.

I think Gomes was going for the ball to boot it into the stands, he had no intention of kicking Benteke and Clatterburg in my opinion got that right, penalty was enough of a penalty for Gomes.

 

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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 27 Dec 16 3.49pm

Originally posted by Inapickle

I think Gomes was going for the ball to boot it into the stands, he had no intention of kicking Benteke and Clatterburg in my opinion got that right, penalty was enough of a penalty for Gomes.


Objection Overruled. Insufficient evidence!

Don't ever pull a stunt like that in my court room again

 

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coulsdoneagle Flag London 27 Dec 16 4.06pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Was going away from goal, and wouldn't have been a red as the rule has been changed. Probably should have been a yellow if he is going to give a yellow to Damo for a push in the box. Having said that by the letter of the law he didn't deny a goal scoring opportunity because Benteke was heading out of play and it was a foul so probably the correct call.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 27 Dec 16 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Inapickle

I think Gomes was going for the ball to boot it into the stands, he had no intention of kicking Benteke and Clatterburg in my opinion got that right, penalty was enough of a penalty for Gomes.

It doesn't matter what his intention was, it is what he did. Lots of fouls, often the worst are not intentional, doesn't make it any less dangerous or a foul.

 


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