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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Dec 16 7.17pm

I'm taking it as read that all those who have said it's not racist are white.


Spike Lee covered this subject in the film Bamboozled [Link]

 

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Kodg Flag LDN 23 Dec 16 7.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And how long are we going to perpetuate this?

Should I be offended by the sight of someone dressed as a Roman or a Norman or the Pope? They were all really mean to my ancestors.

What?! Seriously? Please, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

Either way I'll play along, so can you tell me when the act of dressing up as a Roman, or a Norman, or even the Pope was a statement of superiority over another race?

Learn your history, or you'll forever remain an ignorant fool


 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 23 Dec 16 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

Of course it does require you to actually click on the link and then read it.

Yeah, I did. My answer is the same.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 23 Dec 16 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

What?! Seriously? Please, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

Either way I'll play along, so can you tell me when the act of dressing up as a Roman, or a Norman, or even the Pope was a statement of superiority over another race?

Learn your history, or you'll forever remain an ignorant fool


So you just insult anyone with a differing opinion to your own. Well done, you.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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elgrande Flag bedford 23 Dec 16 7.35pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

What?! Seriously? Please, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

Either way I'll play along, so can you tell me when the act of dressing up as a Roman, or a Norman, or even the Pope was a statement of superiority over another race?

Learn your history, or you'll forever remain an ignorant fool


Think you need to learn history to mate,the Romans had a bigger e Pires than the British, so yeah you could be offended by someone in a gladiator outfit.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 23 Dec 16 7.37pm

I get what the issue is, if you put the glasses on it makes everyone look black.

 

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nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 23 Dec 16 7.44pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Nice to see that the whole squad have been put on a equality & diversity course *more left wing bollocks*
The guys a fool, but racist nope I doubt it !!

More like Politically Correct Bollocks. We don't want to upset the "easily offended" do we? I bet half of those who find it "offensive" are those very keen to be offended on behalf of others. t***s.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Dec 16 7.45pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

What?! Seriously? Please, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

Either way I'll play along, so can you tell me when the act of dressing up as a Roman, or a Norman, or even the Pope was a statement of superiority over another race?

Learn your history, or you'll forever remain an ignorant fool


Advise you would do well to follow it seems.

The Romans took Britons as slaves, the Normans oppressed the crap out of us and the Catholics, well I'm not even going there.

My examples are designed to demonstrate that one could extend these kind of resentments on endlessly into the future. Where will it get us all?

Allowing yourself to be offended by others who deliberately or inadvertently offend puts you in a position of weakness. You have allowed someone to effect you negatively. When you can say, I don't give a f***, then you are the strong one.
If you go out of your way to insult someone's "race" then you are a bellend. Everyone with a brain should know that. But they lose their power when you laugh in their face.

 

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Kodg Flag LDN 23 Dec 16 8.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Advise you would do well to follow it seems.

The Romans took Britons as slaves, the Normans oppressed the crap out of us and the Catholics, well I'm not even going there.

My examples are designed to demonstrate that one could extend these kind of resentments on endlessly into the future. Where will it get us all?

Allowing yourself to be offended by others who deliberately or inadvertently offend puts you in a position of weakness. You have allowed someone to effect you negatively. When you can say, I don't give a f***, then you are the strong one.
If you go out of your way to insult someone's "race" then you are a bellend. Everyone with a brain should know that. But they lose their power when you laugh in their face.


But that argument doesn't stand. It misses the whole point entirely.

It is not the representation of historic figures that offends or even a history of slavery. The blackface does not represent either. It was/is a symbol of oppression and degradation of a race.

It's a visual representation that the black man was/is inferior to the white man in every way and could not be accepted or tolerated in society as anything approaching an equal. And that the only acceptable representation of such was a white man degrading himself. That is what blackface means - and it is the historical understand that I ask you to understand, not the history of the USA.

Would you say to a jew, that they are weak to find the swastika offensive? And that they should laugh at it? Maybe you think the families of the 96 families at Hillsborough should have just laughed at anyone who calls them thieving Scouse b******s?

Personally I don't.

I don't think racism, no matter how casual should ever go unchallenged.

 

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Kodg Flag LDN 23 Dec 16 8.15pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Yeah, I did. My answer is the same.

In which case, I actually pity you.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 23 Dec 16 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg


But that argument doesn't stand. It misses the whole point entirely.

It is not the representation of historic figures that offends or even a history of slavery. The blackface does not represent either. It was/is a symbol of oppression and degradation of a race.

It's a visual representation that the black man was/is inferior to the white man in every way and could not be accepted or tolerated in society as anything approaching an equal. And that the only acceptable representation of such was a white man degrading himself. That is what blackface means - and it is the historical understand that I ask you to understand, not the history of the USA.

Would you say to a jew, that they are weak to find the swastika offensive? And that they should laugh at it? Maybe you think the families of the 96 families at Hillsborough should have just laughed at anyone who calls them thieving Scouse b******s?

Personally I don't.

I don't think racism, no matter how casual should ever go unchallenged
.

Challenge away, old fruit. You're going to be very busy.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 23 Dec 16 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

In which case, I actually pity you.

Don't worry. I'll get over it.

 


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