I stand corrected again, It just felt like a loss

I'm sorry but ridiculous penalty decision aside we were still poor for the most part today.

One win last week changed nothing for me because we couldn't follow it up today against a very poor Hull City. Shipping 3 goals to them and 5 to Swansea is just not good enough.

We now have Man Utd, Chelsea and a Watford side currently going well.... Pardew gone by the new year I reckon.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

The manager has to take some of the blame, if it was an anomaly then it would be unfair to blame Pardew but it isn't; this week defense is happening week after week. The players don't know what they're doing or they have no faith in the managers tactical set up. Pullis had the same back 4 (if not weaker) yet we were rock sturdy at the back and every team Pullis goes to is the same.

My point here isn't to praise Pullis but it is purely to show that an effective manager can have a positive impact on a team.

Pardew is out of his depth and if we do go down I will be thankful for the past few seasons as in my time of being a Palace supporter we have been a Championship team. But if we want to remain a premier league team it is time for change, any longer and we will get relegated.

Because he is responsible for coaching and training of players. Apparently they had to ask for more defensive training prior to the Saints game.

He is also responsible for match preparation, playing style and tactics. The standard of these for most of this year has not been good enough, plenty of evidence in our last 4 away matches.

Ultimately it has gone on long enough now to definitely be Pardew's fault. Either he is not capable of organising the players to defend effectively full stop, or at least not able to motivate them to follow his instructions. In both cases the buck stops with him.

I wanted to believe that we were turning back in the right direction after last week, but today was all wrong again - despite salvaging a point.

Well the manager ain't sorting it is he ? I saw Wickham shouting at our bench in the Man City game for instructions as who he should be picking up marking wise. He was right next to their player at the time, that player scored their second goal. I would have thought all our players would know who to pick up at free kicks and corners before the game even kicks off, managers job to sort. The players shouldn't have to yell at the bench for those kind of instructions during a game. Pardew has lost it, as I've said before on other threads I never even wanted him in the first place, blows hot and cold at every club he has managed, past his sell by, get rid.

South London born and bred
red and blue till im dead.

..precisely, there are no bad teams in this league and Hull are far from s***, some people do talk rubbish.