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ParchmoreEagle Belair 19 Nov 16 9.36pm
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Explain how this (in bold) is Pardews fault please. I have previously posted as Medway has replied. Jedinak needed replacing, ok, but who was the replacement? That was a solid defence created by TP and AP has weakened it. We had in essence a five man defence. AP built the offence and actively weakened the defence - he is to blame. And BTW, even if this wasn't the case, when the defence makes simple blunders week in week out (not talking about super goals like 30 yard screamers and brilliance as mentioned by someone else), but simple, stoppable, errors in defence, who do you blame? Hennessey pointed to that vacant spot and Dann did after their second goal, meaning 'an error' occurred (again), and even AP admitted as much referring to his message not being sent. Manager should have insisted these predictable situations were sorted at training. This is also AP's genius in dropping Jedinak for peanuts without replacing him and believing Dann could deliver the captain's role. I submit that Jedinak would have kicked those arses in defence this season and had those gaps covered. AP is squarely to blame. [Link]
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Belair 19 Nov 16 9.36pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Explain how this (in bold) is Pardews fault please.

I have previously posted as Medway has replied. Jedinak needed replacing, ok, but who was the replacement? That was a solid defence created by TP and AP has weakened it. We had in essence a five man defence. AP built the offence and actively weakened the defence - he is to blame. And BTW, even if this wasn't the case, when the defence makes simple blunders week in week out (not talking about super goals like 30 yard screamers and brilliance as mentioned by someone else), but simple, stoppable, errors in defence, who do you blame? Hennessey pointed to that vacant spot and Dann did after their second goal, meaning 'an error' occurred (again), and even AP admitted as much referring to his message not being sent. Manager should have insisted these predictable situations were sorted at training. This is also AP's genius in dropping Jedinak for peanuts without replacing him and believing Dann could deliver the captain's role. I submit that Jedinak would have kicked those arses in defence this season and had those gaps covered. AP is squarely to blame.

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ParchmoreEagle Belair 19 Nov 16 9.41pm
And it would be commendably humble and wise to buy Jedinak back if only for this season IMO. [Link]
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Belair 19 Nov 16 9.41pm

And it would be commendably humble and wise to buy Jedinak back if only for this season IMO.

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NickinOX Sailing country. 19 Nov 16 10.08pm
Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle And it would be commendably humble and wise to buy Jedinak back if only for this season IMO. As his record in the team shows. Over the 2014-15 season our record with Jedi in the team: W6, D7, L11 (or 1.04 ppg) Jedi out of the team: W7, D2, L5 (or 1.64 ppg) Over the 2015-16 season with Jedi in the team: W4, D9, L14 (or 0.78 ppg) Jedi out of the team: W7, D0, L4 (or 1.91 ppg) So, yes, let's buy him back... If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 19 Nov 16 10.08pm

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

And it would be commendably humble and wise to buy Jedinak back if only for this season IMO.

As his record in the team shows.

Over the 2014-15 season our record with Jedi in the team:
W6, D7, L11 (or 1.04 ppg)

Jedi out of the team:
W7, D2, L5 (or 1.64 ppg)

Over the 2015-16 season with Jedi in the team:
W4, D9, L14 (or 0.78 ppg)

Jedi out of the team:
W7, D0, L4 (or 1.91 ppg)

So, yes, let's buy him back...

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 19 Nov 16 10.56pm
Originally posted by Medway Eagle IMO we have gone from one of the soundest defences in the league to one that leaks goals for fun under Pardew, Admittedly it took him time to dismantle our defence, But thats what he has done, He should galvanise the defence. He sold Jedinak (A leader) So this is his team and with that comes responsibility of drilling into the players what he wants in every scenario, It is every week silly mistakes in defence, Thats my opinion and your welcome to your, Who do you blame for our poor defending? I don't think Pardew was in the defence today, so it wasn't him that switched off. Kelly made a mistake (more than one), so did Dann, Ward and Tomkins. If the manager asks them to do x, and they do y, it's not the manager's fault. He can drill them all week, but if they don't do as asked, is it his fault? Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by Medway Eagle

IMO we have gone from one of the soundest defences in the league to one that leaks goals for fun under Pardew, Admittedly it took him time to dismantle our defence, But thats what he has done, He should galvanise the defence. He sold Jedinak (A leader) So this is his team and with that comes responsibility of drilling into the players what he wants in every scenario, It is every week silly mistakes in defence, Thats my opinion and your welcome to your, Who do you blame for our poor defending?

I don't think Pardew was in the defence today, so it wasn't him that switched off. Kelly made a mistake (more than one), so did Dann, Ward and Tomkins. If the manager asks them to do x, and they do y, it's not the manager's fault. He can drill them all week, but if they don't do as asked, is it his fault?

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Dangermouse Hastings 19 Nov 16 11.14pm
Originally posted by Medway Eagle IMO we have gone from one of the soundest defences in the league to one that leaks goals for fun under Pardew, Admittedly it took him time to dismantle our defence, But thats what he has done, He should galvanise the defence. He sold Jedinak (A leader) So this is his team and with that comes responsibility of drilling into the players what he wants in every scenario, It is every week silly mistakes in defence, Thats my opinion and your welcome to your, Who do you blame for our poor defending? I would of kept Jedinak, but he would of only been a sub, so his influence may not of been what we would hope. As for the plan/tactics, they were working cos City never got going and we were always a threat. I'm sure they work on set pieces, but I'm not sure AP keeps getting them to practice them incorrectly. The results are a perfect excuse to get rid of AP, so stop making up bull just to try and justify your position. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 19 Nov 16 11.14pm

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

I would of kept Jedinak, but he would of only been a sub, so his influence may not of been what we would hope. As for the plan/tactics, they were working cos City never got going and we were always a threat. I'm sure they work on set pieces, but I'm not sure AP keeps getting them to practice them incorrectly.
The results are a perfect excuse to get rid of AP, so stop making up bull just to try and justify your position.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 19 Nov 16 11.28pm
Originally posted by babylonjohn Boo hoo we lost to one of the best teams in the leaugu by one goal OK, we expected nothing and weren't disappointed. However, at this rate of progress your feedback next week is likely to be: "Boo hoo we've lost to the bottom team in the leaugu". Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by babylonjohn

Boo hoo we lost to one of the best teams in the leaugu by one goal

OK, we expected nothing and weren't disappointed.

However, at this rate of progress your feedback next week is likely to be: "Boo hoo we've lost to the bottom team in the leaugu".

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Nov 16 11.42pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse I would of kept Jedinak, but he would of only been a sub, so his influence may not of been what we would hope. As for the plan/tactics, they were working cos City never got going and we were always a threat. I'm sure they work on set pieces, but I'm not sure AP keeps getting them to practice them incorrectly. The results are a perfect excuse to get rid of AP, so stop making up bull just to try and justify your position. How many times do you see the near post unguarded when we take a corner. Are you bleeding surprised they scored from one without any specific instructions to make sure that a, b and c are covered. I'm n 2 games time or so he will either have got the t all done on the training ground or be gone. Wake TF up, for your sake. COYP
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Caterham 19 Nov 16 11.42pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

How many times do you see the near post unguarded when we take a corner. Are you bleeding surprised they scored from one without any specific instructions to make sure that a, b and c are covered. I'm n 2 games time or so he will either have got the t all done on the training ground or be gone. Wake TF up, for your sake.

COYP

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blackpalacefan 19 Nov 16 11.46pm
Originally posted by chateauferret "the second goal, we didn't get a message on to the pitch that we wanted." F***ing classic. honesty mate you couldnt make it up could you
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Originally posted by chateauferret

"the second goal, we didn't get a message on to the pitch that we wanted."

F***ing classic.

honesty mate you couldnt make it up could you

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Alexi_the_Eagle Newton-le-Willows 20 Nov 16 3.06pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio neither is PardLose Then who is the right man if we all know it isn't Pardew? "Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

neither is PardLose

Then who is the right man if we all know it isn't Pardew?

"Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"

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Dangermouse Hastings 20 Nov 16 3.14pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman How many times do you see the near post unguarded when we take a corner. Are you bleeding surprised they scored from one without any specific instructions to make sure that a, b and c are covered. I'm n 2 games time or so he will either have got the t all done on the training ground or be gone. Wake TF up, for your sake. Until yesterday I haven't. Wickham, Benteke, Chamakh have all occupied that corner of the six yard box in recent seasons. You always put your best header in that position as most corner kickers are trying to go through that area. It was as if we were expecting a trick corner and didn't pay attention to the basics. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 20 Nov 16 3.14pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Until yesterday I haven't. Wickham, Benteke, Chamakh have all occupied that corner of the six yard box in recent seasons. You always put your best header in that position as most corner kickers are trying to go through that area. It was as if we were expecting a trick corner and didn't pay attention to the basics.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 20 Nov 16 3.14pm
Originally posted by Alexi_the_Eagle Then who is the right man if we all know it isn't Pardew? Allardyce anyone? Pards ran out of excuses a long time ago, that's why the current ones are o s***.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 20 Nov 16 3.14pm

Originally posted by Alexi_the_Eagle

Then who is the right man if we all know it isn't Pardew?

Allardyce anyone? Pards ran out of excuses a long time ago, that's why the current ones are o s***.

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OldFella London 20 Nov 16 3.14pm
Originally posted by NickinOX As his record in the team shows. Over the 2014-15 season our record with Jedi in the team: W6, D7, L11 (or 1.04 ppg) Jedi out of the team: W7, D2, L5 (or 1.64 ppg) Over the 2015-16 season with Jedi in the team: W4, D9, L14 (or 0.78 ppg) Jedi out of the team: W7, D0, L4 (or 1.91 ppg) So, yes, let's buy him back... Repetitive Wally Alert. You keep posting this, even though the figures are not correct. Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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