By getting rid of the t*** I do hope you are referring to Martin Kelly.

For me though it should be t**** and include Andross Townsend

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

I think that you must be reading a different forum from everyone else as I don't recall anyone referring to Pardew in glowing terms in the whole of 2016

Can't disagree with this. Unfortunately most people are looking at the 2016 record with more intensity over the decent football pards is trying to bring. Whilst the longevity of points is what will keep us with the elite it's the longevity of the style of play that will keep bums on seats. I don't want to be bored s***less watching my palace, and few managers will bring the excitement pards does to this club. A little bit of adversity never did any harm, not least to this club, atleast a sense of perspective is returning that no team outside the top 6/7 has a divine right to being in the pl, how exciting, how entertaining. Celebrated that goal harder than I've celebrated a goal in many many months of football, twas nice to feel fight under difficult circumstances-that is us as a club, always will be imo.

1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought about what I said before I wrote it. The ovation at the end of the game would suggest most people were entertained and pleased at the fight we showed. We are one win from mid table, where we "should" be. I didn't state that ebertainment was more important than staying up, but the longevity of both should be considered. I'm almost at the point where if it's all about money, the return difference between 11th and 12th place, the manager being under pressure for not beating teams we "should" beat, people talking about the potential of Europa as an inconvenient distraction, that I'd take a cheeky trip down to the championship, regain a bit of fight, perspective and god dam appreciation of what being in the PL means, no matter how "bad" your current 16th place is. The attitude of our fans is now pretty tragic, the current adversity we are facing is atleast bringing out the real ones along with the real palace imo.

Edited by rawpalace05 (20 Nov 2016 11.13am)

1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but if we was to go down which we will if the man stays in charge,(but it ok because we will be playing attacking football) we will be a championship club and bums on seats would reduce dramatically

btw the table doesnt lie so we do not have the divine right to be midtable

we are in our 4th season building in the top flight why do we need to appreciate it anymore??

i felt that way the first 2 seasons

A few dreary mind numbing 1-0 wins would do me fine, rather than some thrilling ,entertaining ,honourable defeats.
If and when we are safe from relegation feel free to play gung ho football