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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Nov 16 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Arguably he has. Only about 6-8 teams can be reasonably certain of not getting sucked into a relegation battle. Then there's another four or five that shouldn't which leaves 8-10 or 40%-50% of the league that need to be very careful / know they are in for a tough season. Whilst we are certainly under performing, I don't think it is by the margin many fans think. Nobody (as far as I am aware) tipped us for relegation at the beginning of the season in spite of our poor second half to last season. If we finish mid table this season I thionk we will be viewed outside of the club in a similar bracket as Stoke Southampton and Swansea and we know how things are working out for Swansea at the moment
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Nov 16 6.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Arguably he has. Only about 6-8 teams can be reasonably certain of not getting sucked into a relegation battle. Then there's another four or five that shouldn't which leaves 8-10 or 40%-50% of the league that need to be very careful / know they are in for a tough season. Whilst we are certainly under performing, I don't think it is by the margin many fans think. Nobody (as far as I am aware) tipped us for relegation at the beginning of the season in spite of our poor second half to last season. If we finish mid table this season I thionk we will be viewed outside of the club in a similar bracket as Stoke Southampton and Swansea and we know how things are working out for Swansea at the moment
When Guidolin joined last season Swansea were 17th and he took them up to 12th. This season they were 17th when he was sacked after just 7 games but they did play against Leicester (Champions), Chelsea, Man Utd and Man C so maybe he was hard done by. Edited by Willo (10 Nov 2016 6.36pm)
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 10 Nov 16 6.31pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I thought it was the HF that decided the manager's fate at our club. Edited by nickgusset (10 Nov 2016 3.17pm) Playing with fire there nick. Some on here would deem taking the piss out of the HF worthy of a red.
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Booted Eagle Bristol 10 Nov 16 7.00pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Realistically, the next level for us, doesn't really exist. Finishing top 10 would be more about how other teams fared, than how well we did (although we'd have to do well). But the later, relegation, should be the concern. Whilst I understand fans want us to 'push on to the next level' - that seems to be seen as a being something that's continual. In truth, clubs like us, plateau. The question is really about what kind of plateau Great points. Personally I don't think we are an established PL side yet, so staying in the league is the prime goal. This is the bar for the manager, at this juncture a change in manager isn't necessary, however Pards is certainly very,very near this bar. If the wind doesn't change by Xmas latest then he will be gone. Ultimately it will be the owners' decision to make and I personally have faith that they will make the right one, as they have largely in the past in relation to managers. Edited by Booted Eagle (10 Nov 2016 7.01pm)
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Boooo 10 Nov 16 7.34pm | |
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If i did 1 good job in every 6 i wouldn't get any work. 'We' had to bin certain players as they weren't Premier League so the Chairmen upped their game and gave him some decent players. Maybe it's his backroom team/him. Everyone has their day. He had 2 big days last season, the Norwich game and the Cup Final. I don't see how losing a cup final saves his job as the league is our bread and butter. His 'pressers' are embarrassing. He blames everyone but himself. I just want to hear once, "You know what, today we were s*** and it's my fault', no excuses, just acceptance. I think he'd get a little bit of respect just for that alone. He's a mediocre manager and if we as a club want to accept that, then we'll be fine struggling year in year out. I fancy the Chairmen launching £32m on one player surely meant that they want bigger and better things. Out.
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Inapickle South West 18 Nov 16 11.01pm | |
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Pardew to stay and ....just wait and see.
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ParchmoreEagle Belair 18 Nov 16 11.45pm | |
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TP gave us a backline that I recall top team managers whining about how hard it was to get through. AP inherited that and with Bolasie and Zaha on the wings we were getting results. That was not built upon by AP, he weakened it, it is gone. Jedinak was the tip of the spear on the backline, in essence a 5-man backline to help us compete against top attacks and grab the odd win. So when I heard about Jedinak being replaced I assumed that 'he was being replaced'. No - genius AP, gets millions to develop the frontline and while he's doing that he weakens the backline. All that money and trust put into him by the board, and what do we get? The worst team in 4 leagues. Please give me a break.
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thai-eagle chiang mai 19 Nov 16 2.41am | |
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When a manager under pressure gets reassurance from the owners, he should smell danger! Next step is often: "The club has decided to part company with.......! Thanks and wish all the best bla bla bla".
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The Dolphin 19 Nov 16 7.48am | |
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Originally posted by Sansbup
I remember the clowns talked like that when they got rid of Curbishley because he "couldn't take them to the next level" when they were just beginning to get a toehold in the top half of this division. They're certainly at the next level now. I agree on the Curbishly effect even though I don't think AP is the man for us.
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The Dolphin 19 Nov 16 7.52am | |
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I would add that even though I don't think he is the right man - I sincerely hope he succeeds and proves me wrong.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 19 Nov 16 7.55am | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
I agree on the Curbishly effect even though I don't think AP is the man for us. Absolutely, ... rather see him/ us do well but it's not as though he only sees the team on alternate Saturdays like most of us. What's going on in between?
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Happiness Stan Itchycoo Park 19 Nov 16 8.14am | |
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5 wins in 33 games is an appalling record, especially when you look at the quality of our squad. I'd like us to keep Pardew, but f***ing he'll hesmaking it hard for himself. If he doesn't get an absolute minimum of 4 points from hull Swansea and Man City, he has to go IMHO
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