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paperhat croydon 03 Nov 16 4.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Surely the poppy has no national or political boundaries. It is a symbol of remembrance for all who have died in war. Now I could be a cynic and start talking about who started the various wars or about some soldiers who went about killing innocent civilians, men women and children but that would rather be a side issue. War makes mean people a lot meaner and turns the peaceful into killers. You need to speak to Cucking if that's the case
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 16 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by paperhat
You need to speak to Cucking if that's the case Ha ha ha.
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Beastie 03 Nov 16 4.46pm | |
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The poppy isn’t meant to be a political symbol but it is a massively politicised one. And this obsession over whether footballers where them while they play is anything but traditional.
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Stuk Top half 03 Nov 16 6.54pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Fifa right. Nothing to stop swastikas and other nasties if they allow it. The black arm band denotes the captain there is no need for anything more. Playing to the gallery PM. Poppy police stopped me this morning I am still not wearing one, cheap gimmicks. FIFA make the captains wear luminous yellow armbands.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 16 7.01pm | |
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This year, I will wear a poppy for the last time
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corkery Cork City 03 Nov 16 7.11pm | |
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Looks like the FAI are getting fined for something similar.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 16 10.05pm | |
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Well bully for you. The fact is that Governments in the West particularly have realised that huge war casualties are not acceptable to the public. Vietnam was probably the final straw.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 16 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well bully for you. The fact is that Governments in the West particularly have realised that huge war casualties are not acceptable to the public. Vietnam was probably the final straw.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 16 10.19pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I did. Let's be honest. Wearing the poppy or not wearing the poppy or any other act or lack of it can be construed as political.
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HeathMan Purley 03 Nov 16 11.55pm | |
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Sadly, poppies have become must have items, rather than decision items. Personally, I like to decide to buy and wear a poppy in recognition of the fallen - and those whose lives have been changed so they need Royal British Legion help. Seeing public images of people who have been dressed (news readers, actors in soap operas, anyone providing sporting entertainment) is a disappointment. I would far rather see people showing individual (individually purchased) poppies whether pinned to shirts, shorts or temporarily tattooed to skin as an indication of respect for the fallen, instead of a poppy that has been provided.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Nov 16 12.11am | |
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It only takes a very cursory bit of investigation to find that the rules aren't drawn up by FIFA at all, but actually by a body called the International Football Association Board (IFAB). It turns out that IFAB is made up of four representatives of FIFA and one member each from the four British football associations (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland). So that's 50% of the votes for British football officials, and 50% of the votes for the rest of the footballing world combined! Given that it takes a 75% majority decision to introduce or amend a rule of the game, it's absolutely beyond doubt that British football officials approved the rule to ban political symbolism from international football fixtures, which makes Theresa May's xenophobic "how dare these pesky foreigners tell us what to do?" rhetoric look more than a little bit thin
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Nov 16 12.12am | |
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Originally posted by HeathMan
Sadly, poppies have become must have items, rather than decision items. Personally, I like to decide to buy and wear a poppy in recognition of the fallen - and those whose lives have been changed so they need Royal British Legion help. Seeing public images of people who have been dressed (news readers, actors in soap operas, anyone providing sporting entertainment) is a disappointment. I would far rather see people showing individual (individually purchased) poppies whether pinned to shirts, shorts or temporarily tattooed to skin as an indication of respect for the fallen, instead of a poppy that has been provided. Along the same lines...
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