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Pussay Patrol 11 Jul 16 9.58am | |
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the players are good enough. Portugal just won a tournament with a team that has Nani, Ricardo Carvalho - and Eder who scored the winner was a flop in the premiership They didn't win cos they had superior players, they had team spirit and a game plan
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miles18 Telford 11 Jul 16 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
the players are good enough. Portugal just won a tournament with a team that has Nani, Ricardo Carvalho - and Eder who scored the winner was a flop in the premiership They didn't win cos they had superior players, they had team spirit and a game plan They won one game in 90 mins and finished third behind Hungary and Iceland. They played much better without Ronaldo in the final as it wasn't Ronaldo FC anymore. England won't win anything no matter who the manager is. Players just don't give a s***. Also when players who hardly play all season and who are out of form get picked, I'm not surprised we don't do anything.
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crvenaeagle 12 Jul 16 5.06am | |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
I'd love Neil Warnock. We might still be s*** but we'd play with passion, excitement and would love to see the foreign managers and players reactions to him. It'd be great fun Oooo eeee, well we might notta won anything but A've 'ad a lovely time and ai think the lads did too, it's a real treat, not been t'Russia before me! Crackin' match fer t'neutrels weren'tet?
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Dubai Eagle 12 Jul 16 5.16am | |
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Followed by that statement, - this is definitely the last job for me ........
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Kennyd163 new addington 13 Jul 16 10.31am | |
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Sunderland have confirmed that big Sam has been approached for the job. Not a bad manager and definitely a step up from woy
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 16 10.36am | |
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Originally posted by Kennyd163
Sunderland have confirmed that big Sam has been approached for the job. Not a bad manager and definitely a step up from woy If Allardyce goes I think I might have Sunderland down as relegation candidates.With him at the helm it's a different story.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Jul 16 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by miles18
They won one game in 90 mins and finished third behind Hungary and Iceland. They played much better without Ronaldo in the final as it wasn't Ronaldo FC anymore. England won't win anything no matter who the manager is. Players just don't give a s***. Also when players who hardly play all season and who are out of form get picked, I'm not surprised we don't do anything. Portugal could quite easily have won the group if they notched a couple of the many chances they had in every game. It was a strange tournament due to the 3rd team qualifying opportunity but it is definitely possible for a lesser team to sneak a Euros trophy. Greece in in 2004 an Portugal in 2016. We could even reach a World Cup semi final if we applied ourselves properly. England players unite more when they have a manager more inspiring and loosen up. A manager is also not contracted to pick from the usual big 4 or 5 clubs. If he has guts he'd go for form rather than the option of big name, big club player which means less criticism when you return home, as long as you aren't completely humiliated.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Jul 16 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
If Allardyce goes I think I might have Sunderland down as relegation candidates.With him at the helm it's a different story. Possibly. Obviously depends on the replacement. He bought wisely in January and I think it was the 1st time in a good few years their net transfer spending was significantly above break even. i.e - they can still afford to invest and know the dangers of not doing so.
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silvertop Portishead 13 Jul 16 11.43am | |
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Doesn't matter who it is; nothing will change. Elite clubs will continue to dominate selection regardless of form, fitness or fitness for position. Players will happily bow out early in order to reduce the risk of injury, ensure they have a full lavishly expensive holiday, are available from the opening game to maximise play bonuses and - again - keep their elite paymasters happy. The pattern will continue. Win every qualifying game; FA gets lucrative sponsorship deal for summer Finals; players suddenly "forget" how to play and what they have practised game after game; ignominious "shock" exit in the knock-out stage; manager falls on sword.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 13 Jul 16 11.57am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Doesn't matter who it is; nothing will change. Elite clubs will continue to dominate selection regardless of form, fitness or fitness for position. Players will happily bow out early in order to reduce the risk of injury, ensure they have a full lavishly expensive holiday, are available from the opening game to maximise play bonuses and - again - keep their elite paymasters happy. The pattern will continue. Win every qualifying game; FA gets lucrative sponsorship deal for summer Finals; players suddenly "forget" how to play and what they have practised game after game; ignominious "shock" exit in the knock-out stage; manager falls on sword. It's about coaching and identity, rather than players being reluctant to risk injury or only selecting players from the top 4. Coaching is at such a poor standard in this country - from the very youngest levels of football development - and the FA just doesn't improve it. And the premier league is too focused on commercial success without the damage that can do to the development of competitive young English/British talent. Even when we do have good young talent (Kane, Alli, Walker, Rose, Smalling, Sterling, etc.) we still fail to actually turn that into a coherent strategy for success. Roy Hodgson had 4 games in a major european tournament and still didn't know his best side by the end of it.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 13 Jul 16 11.57am | |
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Duplicate post Edited by OknotOK (13 Jul 2016 11.59am)
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Pussay Patrol 13 Jul 16 10.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Possibly. Obviously depends on the replacement. He bought wisely in January and I think it was the 1st time in a good few years their net transfer spending was significantly above break even. i.e - they can still afford to invest and know the dangers of not doing so. 1 year ago Leicester hired Ranieri and at the time I thought it smacked of desperation and predicted they would go down....who knows
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