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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 3.35pm
Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

"Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11.
• On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy.
• In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%.
• The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

• In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery.
• Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade".

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it).

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

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coulsdoneagle London 15 Aug 15 4.21pm
Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm) Daily mail and truth... Two things that don't belong in the same sentence. Does seem like your type of rag though
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London 15 Aug 15 4.21pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

Daily mail and truth... Two things that don't belong in the same sentence.

Does seem like your type of rag though

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 6.45pm
Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm) That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link.
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Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 6.45pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 7.04pm
Quote coulsdoneagle at 15 Aug 2015 4.21pm Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm) Daily mail and truth... Two things that don't belong in the same sentence. Does seem like your type of rag though What's your type of rag then? The Guardian? The Mirror?
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 7.04pm

Quote coulsdoneagle at 15 Aug 2015 4.21pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

Daily mail and truth... Two things that don't belong in the same sentence.

Does seem like your type of rag though

What's your type of rag then? The Guardian? The Mirror?

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 7.09pm
Quote nickgusset at 15 Aug 2015 6.45pm Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm) That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link. Unfortunately Nick it's the best my old computer can do, have you scrolled down? The general crux of it is the estimated £2billion that health tourism costs the NHS is a lie and that it actually costs a hell of a lot more. There was an article from the Guardian saying the same thing but I can't bring myself to attach that to my post.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 7.09pm

Quote nickgusset at 15 Aug 2015 6.45pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link.

Unfortunately Nick it's the best my old computer can do, have you scrolled down? The general crux of it is the estimated £2billion that health tourism costs the NHS is a lie and that it actually costs a hell of a lot more. There was an article from the Guardian saying the same thing but I can't bring myself to attach that to my post.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 7.42pm
Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.09pm Quote nickgusset at 15 Aug 2015 6.45pm Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013: "Of the 27 trusts that provided data, hospitals earned £194.6m from treating private patients in 2010/11. • On average a third of that income came from patients that weren't from the UK. Together, they generated approximately £220m for the UK economy. • In Sheffield Children's NHS Foundation Trust, 97% of income from private patients was from those that weren't from the UK. In Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, it was 88.3%. • The nine most common countries of origin for patients being treated in the UK (along with the approximate number of patients in 2010) were: 1. Ireland (13,000) 2. Cyprus (6,000) 3. Spain (5,000) 4. Greece (3,500) 5. Nigeria (3,250) 6. Kuwait (2,750) 7. Portugal (2,250) 8. France (1,750) 9. UAE (1,000) • In 2010, more UK residents were treated abroad than non-UK residents were treated in the UK. Those UK residents sought fertility treatments, cosmetic and bariatric (weight loss) surgery. • Between 2000 and 2010, over 100,000 UK residents sought treatment in France, Poland, India, Spain, Germany the US and, to a lesser extent, in dozens of other countries. Certain treatments are associated with specific destinations - for example "UK dental patients increasingly travel to Hungary and Poland, which corresponds to the varied availability of NHS dental treatment over the last decade". As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread. As for "immigration controls" good to see a poster taking note of requests to confine such topics and requests to relevant threads.(Not as if the poster in question is obsessed with immigrants or anything like that,is it). Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm) It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh? Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm) That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link. Unfortunately Nick it's the best my old computer can do, have you scrolled down? The general crux of it is the estimated £2billion that health tourism costs the NHS is a lie and that it actually costs a hell of a lot more. There was an article from the Guardian saying the same thing but I can't bring myself to attach that to my post. What statistical evidence was there? and was it the piece that appeared in the clarifications and corrections section as being bull.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 15 Aug 15 7.42pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.09pm

Quote nickgusset at 15 Aug 2015 6.45pm

Quote fed up eagle at 15 Aug 2015 3.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 12.29pm

Funny how prejudice can often not equate with reality. Department of Health research published in 2013:

1. Ireland (13,000)
2. Cyprus (6,000)
3. Spain (5,000)
4. Greece (3,500)
5. Nigeria (3,250)
6. Kuwait (2,750)
7. Portugal (2,250)
8. France (1,750)
9. UAE (1,000)

As for the "£2bn figure" (actually c.167 times less)that's been dealt with earlier in the thread.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 12.33pm)

It's funny how the TRUTH is often passed off as prejudice eh?

Edited by fed up eagle (15 Aug 2015 3.37pm)

That nonsense is taking forever to download. Do you have a link.

What statistical evidence was there? and was it the piece that appeared in the clarifications and corrections section as being bull.

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legaleagle 15 Aug 15 7.56pm
"The general crux of it is the estimated £2billion that health tourism costs the NHS is a lie and that it actually costs a hell of a lot more. There was an article from the Guardian saying the same thing but I can't bring myself to attach that to my post." Very reliable post....not [Link] [Link] [Link] Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.00pm)
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15 Aug 15 7.56pm

"The general crux of it is the estimated £2billion that health tourism costs the NHS is a lie and that it actually costs a hell of a lot more. There was an article from the Guardian saying the same thing but I can't bring myself to attach that to my post."

Very reliable post....not

[Link]

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.00pm)

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leggedstruggle Croydon 15 Aug 15 8.00pm
Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm [Link] [Link] [Link] The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK. mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 15 Aug 15 8.00pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm

[Link]

The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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legaleagle 15 Aug 15 8.02pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 15 Aug 2015 8.00pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm [Link] [Link] [Link] The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK. But FUE said what the Guardian wrote was correct (see above).Have the Commies "turned" him?;Is he no longer your trusted bedfellow on the quest for unbiased truth?Surely FUE doesn't post things as fact regardless of whether they are true or not? Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.06pm)
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15 Aug 15 8.02pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 15 Aug 2015 8.00pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm

[Link]

The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK.

But FUE said what the Guardian wrote was correct (see above).Have the Commies "turned" him?;Is he no longer your trusted bedfellow on the quest for unbiased truth?Surely FUE doesn't post things as fact regardless of whether they are true or not?

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.06pm)

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leggedstruggle Croydon 15 Aug 15 8.13pm
Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 8.02pm Quote leggedstruggle at 15 Aug 2015 8.00pm Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm [Link] [Link] [Link] The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK. But FUE said what the Guardian wrote was correct (see above).Have the Commies "turned" him?;Is he no longer your trusted bedfellow on the quest for unbiased truth?Surely FUE doesn't post things as fact regardless of whether they are true or not? Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.06pm) The articles are the usual cuttlefish-ink trying to hide the enormity of the problem. As for it costing more to treat UK citizens in Europe - so what? Who cares? It is our NHS we should be concerned about. Edited by leggedstruggle (15 Aug 2015 8.14pm) mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 15 Aug 15 8.13pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 8.02pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 15 Aug 2015 8.00pm

Quote legaleagle at 15 Aug 2015 7.56pm

[Link]

The Grauniad LOL it must be true - the Pravda of the UK.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Aug 2015 8.06pm)

The articles are the usual cuttlefish-ink trying to hide the enormity of the problem. As for it costing more to treat UK citizens in Europe - so what? Who cares? It is our NHS we should be concerned about.

Edited by leggedstruggle (15 Aug 2015 8.14pm)

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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legaleagle 15 Aug 15 8.20pm
So FUE was inaccurate and therefore can't be relied upon? Shurely shome mishtake .
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legaleagle

15 Aug 15 8.20pm

So FUE was inaccurate and therefore can't be relied upon? Shurely shome mishtake

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 8.22pm
At the end of the day health tourism costs the NHS a fortune, and that's the truth. Does this not even make you lefties angry? That people who have never even paid into the system are taking advantage of this, at your expense? Not even a hint of annoyment? Nothing? Not even a twinge of anger? No?
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 15 Aug 15 8.22pm

At the end of the day health tourism costs the NHS a fortune, and that's the truth. Does this not even make you lefties angry? That people who have never even paid into the system are taking advantage of this, at your expense? Not even a hint of annoyment? Nothing? Not even a twinge of anger? No?

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