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Superfly Flag The sun always shines in Catford 13 Apr 15 12.04pm Send a Private Message to Superfly Add Superfly as a friend

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.27am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Apr 2015 8.33am

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 4.31pm

In a word, yes.

Anyone who gives a toss about the climate should stop eating meat.


Do you go on holiday abroad?

Do you use your own source of electricity?

Do you wear or use leather goods?

Drive a car?

etc


etc



No, I don't live in a hole in the ground eating mung beans, so yes, in the ever cynical world we live in I'm a massive hypocrite for daring to give a toss about climate change while wearing shoes and having an oyster card.

But, as an individual, most of the things often suggested for tackling climate change are either massively impractical or just laughably ineffective. Cutting out meat and fish is not only easily the most effective thing a person can do (51% of greenhouse emissions come from livestock, which is f*cking insane if you sit back and think about it) but also the easiest.

Obviously it involves two main sacrifices. Eating animals, which really isn't that hard in this day and age. The second one, which far more people succumb to, is being called gay/a hippy/a girl by uber-males who's first response to another person's legitimate moral decision is to throw insults at it. Once you learn how to tell them to grow up and do one, you'll find being a veggie is actually pretty straightforward.


Do you share these beliefs with your husband?

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 13 Apr 15 12.12pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Quote Superfly at 13 Apr 2015 12.04pm

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.27am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Apr 2015 8.33am

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 4.31pm

In a word, yes.

Anyone who gives a toss about the climate should stop eating meat.


Do you go on holiday abroad?

Do you use your own source of electricity?

Do you wear or use leather goods?

Drive a car?

etc


etc



No, I don't live in a hole in the ground eating mung beans, so yes, in the ever cynical world we live in I'm a massive hypocrite for daring to give a toss about climate change while wearing shoes and having an oyster card.

But, as an individual, most of the things often suggested for tackling climate change are either massively impractical or just laughably ineffective. Cutting out meat and fish is not only easily the most effective thing a person can do (51% of greenhouse emissions come from livestock, which is f*cking insane if you sit back and think about it) but also the easiest.

Obviously it involves two main sacrifices. Eating animals, which really isn't that hard in this day and age. The second one, which far more people succumb to, is being called gay/a hippy/a girl by uber-males who's first response to another person's legitimate moral decision is to throw insults at it. Once you learn how to tell them to grow up and do one, you'll find being a veggie is actually pretty straightforward.


Do you share these beliefs with your husband?


 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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elgrande Flag bedford 13 Apr 15 12.13pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Quote Lombardos barber at 12 Apr 2015 5.26pm

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 5.06pm

Quote Lombardos barber at 12 Apr 2015 4.41pm

Most vegetarians are Liberals.

Liberals make up 85% of bad parents in the UK.

100% of Victoria Cross winners have been meat eaters.

There you go.


What's your definition of a liberal?

Well educated themselves but hate those who go to good schools.

Good jobs themselves but hate anyone else who makes money.

Hate the coffee trade but have no dramas with their own cocaine habit.

Huge advocates of democracy unless someone disagrees with them.

Will work as hard as they can to make a person or group into a victim and foster as much division as they can then decry others for a lack of harmony in society.

Think parenting is about letting kids run riot.

Probably quite weedy. Possibly bead wearing.

Edited by Lombardos barber (12 Apr 2015 5.27pm)

Straight out of their handbook.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 13 Apr 15 12.43pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote Superfly at 13 Apr 2015 12.04pm

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.27am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Apr 2015 8.33am

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 4.31pm

In a word, yes.

Anyone who gives a toss about the climate should stop eating meat.


Do you go on holiday abroad?

Do you use your own source of electricity?

Do you wear or use leather goods?

Drive a car?

etc


etc



No, I don't live in a hole in the ground eating mung beans, so yes, in the ever cynical world we live in I'm a massive hypocrite for daring to give a toss about climate change while wearing shoes and having an oyster card.

But, as an individual, most of the things often suggested for tackling climate change are either massively impractical or just laughably ineffective. Cutting out meat and fish is not only easily the most effective thing a person can do (51% of greenhouse emissions come from livestock, which is f*cking insane if you sit back and think about it) but also the easiest.

Obviously it involves two main sacrifices. Eating animals, which really isn't that hard in this day and age. The second one, which far more people succumb to, is being called gay/a hippy/a girl by uber-males who's first response to another person's legitimate moral decision is to throw insults at it. Once you learn how to tell them to grow up and do one, you'll find being a veggie is actually pretty straightforward.


Do you share these beliefs with your husband?

I believe they are called 'life partners' these days as the institution of marriage is an archaic and inherently evil state designed purely to oppress wimminkind...

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 13 Apr 15 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Quote Superfly at 13 Apr 2015 12.04pm

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.27am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Apr 2015 8.33am

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 4.31pm

In a word, yes.

Anyone who gives a toss about the climate should stop eating meat.


Do you go on holiday abroad?

Do you use your own source of electricity?

Do you wear or use leather goods?

Drive a car?

etc


etc



No, I don't live in a hole in the ground eating mung beans, so yes, in the ever cynical world we live in I'm a massive hypocrite for daring to give a toss about climate change while wearing shoes and having an oyster card.

But, as an individual, most of the things often suggested for tackling climate change are either massively impractical or just laughably ineffective. Cutting out meat and fish is not only easily the most effective thing a person can do (51% of greenhouse emissions come from livestock, which is f*cking insane if you sit back and think about it) but also the easiest.

Obviously it involves two main sacrifices. Eating animals, which really isn't that hard in this day and age. The second one, which far more people succumb to, is being called gay/a hippy/a girl by uber-males who's first response to another person's legitimate moral decision is to throw insults at it. Once you learn how to tell them to grow up and do one, you'll find being a veggie is actually pretty straightforward.


Do you share these beliefs with your husband?

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 13 Apr 15 1.24pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Quote Superfly at 13 Apr 2015 12.04pm

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.27am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Apr 2015 8.33am

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 4.31pm

In a word, yes.

Anyone who gives a toss about the climate should stop eating meat.


Do you go on holiday abroad?

Do you use your own source of electricity?

Do you wear or use leather goods?

Drive a car?

etc


etc



No, I don't live in a hole in the ground eating mung beans, so yes, in the ever cynical world we live in I'm a massive hypocrite for daring to give a toss about climate change while wearing shoes and having an oyster card.

But, as an individual, most of the things often suggested for tackling climate change are either massively impractical or just laughably ineffective. Cutting out meat and fish is not only easily the most effective thing a person can do (51% of greenhouse emissions come from livestock, which is f*cking insane if you sit back and think about it) but also the easiest.

Obviously it involves two main sacrifices. Eating animals, which really isn't that hard in this day and age. The second one, which far more people succumb to, is being called gay/a hippy/a girl by uber-males who's first response to another person's legitimate moral decision is to throw insults at it. Once you learn how to tell them to grow up and do one, you'll find being a veggie is actually pretty straightforward.


Do you share these beliefs with your husband?


I'll ask him when he gets back from his musical rehearsals

 


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Superfly Flag The sun always shines in Catford 13 Apr 15 2.37pm Send a Private Message to Superfly Add Superfly as a friend

I deserved that

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 13 Apr 15 4.03pm

Being top of the food chain should be celebrated not frowned upon.

An animal wouldn't think twice about eating us

 


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imbored Flag UK 13 Apr 15 4.11pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 13 Apr 2015 4.03pm

Being top of the food chain should be celebrated not frowned upon.

An animal wouldn't think twice about eating us

They don't have the capacity to do so, we do. We should celebrate our intelligence and ability to even have such discussions, regardless of whether we eventually decide to chomp on a pork chop or not.

 

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Hoof Hearted 13 Apr 15 4.23pm

Quote Ouzo Dan at 13 Apr 2015 9.30am

Quote Lombardos barber at 12 Apr 2015 5.26pm

Quote serial thriller at 12 Apr 2015 5.06pm

Quote Lombardos barber at 12 Apr 2015 4.41pm

Most vegetarians are Liberals.

Liberals make up 85% of bad parents in the UK.

100% of Victoria Cross winners have been meat eaters.

There you go.


What's your definition of a liberal?

Well educated themselves but hate those who go to good schools.

Good jobs themselves but hate anyone else who makes money.

Hate the coffee trade but have no dramas with their own cocaine habit.

Huge advocates of democracy unless someone disagrees with them.

Will work as hard as they can to make a person or group into a victim and foster as much division as they can then decry others for a lack of harmony in society.

Think parenting is about letting kids run riot.

Probably quite weedy. Possibly bead wearing.

Edited by Lombardos barber (12 Apr 2015 5.27pm)


nailed it


I'd say tore him a new arsehole! LOL

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 Apr 15 5.48pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 13 Apr 2015 4.03pm

Being top of the food chain should be celebrated not frowned upon.

An animal wouldn't think twice about eating us

Humans aren't top of the food chain per se, well at least for around 2000 or so poor sods world wide each year (Crocodiles account for half of those).

In addition snakes account for about 10,000 deaths worldwide, scorpions 4-5000 whilst the Mozzy probably kills between half a million or so.


 


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Stuk Flag Top half 13 Apr 15 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote serial thriller at 13 Apr 2015 11.32am

Quote Stuk at 12 Apr 2015 11.33pm

Nope. We should just eat seasonal, regional and sustainable.


This is a pretty hard one though. There are, what, 9 billion people in the world? As societies are developing, the demand for meat and fish is soaring. But say there was a global change of consciousness and everyone decided to just eat organic, how are you going to catch enough fish and farm enough animals to satisfy the demands of billions of people, while finding the land to let even further billions of animals graze, and the techniques to catch billions of fish without, as we are now doing, totally destroying the sea?

It's impossible. Either prices would go through the roof, you admit defeat and accept that animals have to be treated like sh*t for us to enjoy a cheap Greggs steak bake, or we just cut down massively on our intake.


There are too many people. We need to stop trying to make everyone live for as long as possible, when your time is up - tough luck.

The demand for certain types is. Plenty of stuff there people deem not tasty enough, or just a little awkward to eat/cook or ugly to look at. Or people are just squeamish about pigeon, rabbit, eels etc, for example.

A prime case today is jam. There is no need for us to be making jam anymore, it was to preserve a glut of extra fruit in a harvest to last the year. As we know grow and import not only year round, but worldwide, so there's no glut/shortage adn therefore need for jam. We just like it.

 


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