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EricYoung'sSweatBand 06 Apr 15 2.11pm
Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?
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Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

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chris123 hove actually 06 Apr 15 2.14pm
Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.11pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it? I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?
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Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?

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EricYoung'sSweatBand 06 Apr 15 2.15pm
Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.14pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.11pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it? I know what I think, I'm asking what you think? I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible.
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Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm

Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?

I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible.

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chris123 hove actually 06 Apr 15 2.18pm
Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.15pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.14pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.11pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it? I know what I think, I'm asking what you think? I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible. And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are.
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Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?

I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible.

And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are.

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EricYoung'sSweatBand 06 Apr 15 2.22pm
Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.18pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.15pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.14pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.11pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it? I know what I think, I'm asking what you think? I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible. And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are. Did I say that I looked at a website? Reading's not your strong point is it?
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Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?

I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible.

And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are.

Did I say that I looked at a website?

Reading's not your strong point is it?

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chris123 hove actually 06 Apr 15 2.27pm
Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.22pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.18pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.15pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.14pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.11pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.07pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.00pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.43pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.41pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.32pm Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 1.27pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 1.24pm Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me. Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm) If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is. That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are? Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers You don't know then. That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET. Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think? Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it? I know what I think, I'm asking what you think? I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible. And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are. Did I say that I looked at a website? Reading's not your strong point is it? I was surmising, since you clearly don't know.
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Jesus Christ... So if there is a family a living month to month (or week to week) and the main bread winner falls ill or loses their job and the family run out of money, that is child abuse. f*** me.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 1.24pm)

If they don't provide for a child's basic needs, then of course it is.

That's a reprehensible viewpoint. I sincerely hope if you have kids nothing out of blue bad happens to you, lest you be labelled an abuser

My children are all grown up, do you know what a child's basic needs are?

Well then I hope nothing happens to your kids lest they be labelled abusers

You don't know then.

That's the most idiotic argument ever. I'm on the Internet; even if I didn't know I'M ON THE INTERNET.

Well I'm not asking what a website thinks, I'm asking what you think?

Well if you think a child's basic needs are subjective them your argument falls apart even further doesn't it?

I know what I think, I'm asking what you think?

I've told you what I think. Your views are reprehensible.

And you're looking for a website to tell you what a child's basic needs are.

Did I say that I looked at a website?

Reading's not your strong point is it?

I was surmising, since you clearly don't know.

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EricYoung'sSweatBand 06 Apr 15 2.34pm
haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious.
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06 Apr 15 2.34pm

haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious.

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chris123 hove actually 06 Apr 15 2.48pm
Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.34pm haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious. I asked you more than an hour ago if you knew what a child's basic needs are, and clearly you don't.
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Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.34pm

haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious.

I asked you more than an hour ago if you knew what a child's basic needs are, and clearly you don't.

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EricYoung'sSweatBand 06 Apr 15 2.53pm
Quote chris123 at 06 Apr 2015 2.48pm Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 06 Apr 2015 2.34pm haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious. I asked you more than an hour ago if you knew what a child's basic needs are, and clearly you don't. Haha ok mate
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haha no you weren't. Leave it out now, you're getting tedious.

I asked you more than an hour ago if you knew what a child's basic needs are, and clearly you don't.

Haha ok mate

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Apr 15 4.17pm
Check out the un convention on the rights of the child. I think (I won't look it up, lest Chris accuses me of not independently coming up with the un charter all by myself) numbers 20 and 26 cover how the state is responsible for helping meet basic needs if parents are unable due to poverty. It seems the coalition ain't doing enough.
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Shizzlehurst 06 Apr 15 4.17pm

Check out the un convention on the rights of the child. I think (I won't look it up, lest Chris accuses me of not independently coming up with the un charter all by myself) numbers 20 and 26 cover how the state is responsible for helping meet basic needs if parents are unable due to poverty.

It seems the coalition ain't doing enough.

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Lyons550 Shirley 06 Apr 15 5.50pm
Quote johnfirewall at 05 Apr 2015 2.19pm "Children in 2015 should not be hungry and coming to school with no socks on and no coats - some children are living in Victorian conditions - in the inner cities," said one unnamed teacher. [Link] Nick? To be fair a teacher at my Mum's school sorted new clothes for a kid, who then came in the next day with the same old ones. The father was a scumbag by all accounts and had likely sold them, and not to put food on the table. (Pre-coalition BTW) Edited by johnfirewall (05 Apr 2015 2.23pm) I'm assuming they were sent up a chimney as well...otherwise its a poor simile The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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"Children in 2015 should not be hungry and coming to school with no socks on and no coats - some children are living in Victorian conditions - in the inner cities," said one unnamed teacher.

[Link]

Nick?

To be fair a teacher at my Mum's school sorted new clothes for a kid, who then came in the next day with the same old ones. The father was a scumbag by all accounts and had likely sold them, and not to put food on the table. (Pre-coalition BTW)

Edited by johnfirewall (05 Apr 2015 2.23pm)

I'm assuming they were sent up a chimney as well...otherwise its a poor simile

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Pawson Palace Croydon 07 Apr 15 9.19am
Simple solution. Scrap cash benefits for energy, food and clothing vouchers. No excuses then. Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Simple solution.

Scrap cash benefits for energy, food and clothing vouchers.

No excuses then.

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