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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 15 10.40pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay. Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 15 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay.

Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for.

Optimistic as ever

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Feb 15 10.51pm
Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay. Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for. Yes like the drivers... My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike.
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Shizzlehurst 05 Feb 15 10.51pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay.

Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for.

Yes like the drivers...
My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Feb 15 10.57pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 10.51pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay. Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for. Yes like the drivers... My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike. ........but surely the money lost on fares would be counter balanced by not paying the staff? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Feb 15 10.57pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 10.51pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay.

Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for.

Yes like the drivers...
My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike.

........but surely the money lost on fares would be counter balanced by not paying the staff?

Pro USA & Israel

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TUX redhill 05 Feb 15 11.06pm
Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.38pm Quote TUX at 05 Feb 2015 9.59pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.21pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 5.17pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.13pm I've been out and about today and gone past 3 depots where the bus w*ers (Unite) are on strike. At each site there was a police car, with police officers sitting in it, watching nothing happen. I do hope they're being made to pay the costs in a similar vein that football clubs are forcibly charged for it, whether they want them or not. Sorry to crush your hope, but they are not. Of course they aren't. Like all union actions, they only further drain public resources. But still waaaaaaaay behind the public resources spent bailing out the bankers DUE TO THEIR GREED. And now the bankers are all rich again but you're having a gripe about those who contributed to their wealth? 'Tis indeed a funny old world. Resources that will be paid back, in full, with profit. The use of "bankers" should now be an automatic disqualification from a coherent argument.** You talk of a coherent argument yet deny the facts regarding the banking system? It is designed to make you, along with the rest of us, poorer than we should be. The bailouts added to their wealth as many studies have shown and the gap between the rich and poor has grown. But if you want to pick a fight with a bus driver then go ahead. You're fighting the wrong person. Edited by TUX (05 Feb 2015 11.08pm)
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redhill 05 Feb 15 11.06pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.38pm

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Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.13pm

I've been out and about today and gone past 3 depots where the bus w***ers (Unite) are on strike.

At each site there was a police car, with police officers sitting in it, watching nothing happen.

I do hope they're being made to pay the costs in a similar vein that football clubs are forcibly charged for it, whether they want them or not.

Sorry to crush your hope, but they are not.

Of course they aren't. Like all union actions, they only further drain public resources.

But still waaaaaaaay behind the public resources spent bailing out the bankers DUE TO THEIR GREED. And now the bankers are all rich again but you're having a gripe about those who contributed to their wealth?
'Tis indeed a funny old world.

Resources that will be paid back, in full, with profit.

The use of "bankers" should now be an automatic disqualification from a coherent argument.

You talk of a coherent argument yet deny the facts regarding the banking system?
It is designed to make you, along with the rest of us, poorer than we should be. The bailouts added to their wealth as many studies have shown and the gap between the rich and poor has grown.
But if you want to pick a fight with a bus driver then go ahead. You're fighting the wrong person.

Edited by TUX (05 Feb 2015 11.08pm)

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 05 Feb 15 11.34pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 10.51pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay. Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for. Yes like the drivers... My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike. It would be worse for customers. If you can get a freebee in this country you would. If buses in London were free for just one day & one day only there would be carnage. Buses would be rammed with day trippers who wouldn't usually get the bus.
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Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 10.51pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Kids, pensioners, staff and police already don't pay.

Do you want us to just throw some more debt on the pile? Things have to be paid for.

Yes like the drivers...
My point was that not collecting fares as industrial action will affect passengers less than a strike.

It would be worse for customers. If you can get a freebee in this country you would. If buses in London were free for just one day & one day only there would be carnage. Buses would be rammed with day trippers who wouldn't usually get the bus.

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Pawson Palace Croydon 06 Feb 15 8.43am
I was a bit pissed yesterday when I had to walk back home in the freezing cold after a long day but I didn't feel as agreived as I normally would had it been the tube on strike. No question being a bus driver is waaay more stressful than on the tube. Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Croydon 06 Feb 15 8.43am

I was a bit pissed yesterday when I had to walk back home in the freezing cold after a long day but I didn't feel as agreived as I normally would had it been the tube on strike. No question being a bus driver is waaay more stressful than on the tube.

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 06 Feb 15 9.28am
Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Why's he getting the bus then? Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 06 Feb 15 9.28am

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Why's he getting the bus then?

Lend me a Tenor

31 May to 3 June 2017

John McIntosh Arts Centre
London Oratory School
SW6 1RX

with Superfly in the chorus
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Feb 15 10.05am
Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.38pm Quote TUX at 05 Feb 2015 9.59pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.21pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 5.17pm Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.13pm I've been out and about today and gone past 3 depots where the bus w*ers (Unite) are on strike. At each site there was a police car, with police officers sitting in it, watching nothing happen. I do hope they're being made to pay the costs in a similar vein that football clubs are forcibly charged for it, whether they want them or not. Sorry to crush your hope, but they are not. Of course they aren't. Like all union actions, they only further drain public resources. But still waaaaaaaay behind the public resources spent bailing out the bankers DUE TO THEIR GREED. And now the bankers are all rich again but you're having a gripe about those who contributed to their wealth? 'Tis indeed a funny old world. Resources that will be paid back, in full, with profit**. The use of "bankers" should now be an automatic disqualification from a coherent argument. In theory - In reality, I suspect the so called profit will not really equate to much more than depreciation, and certainly won't account for an actual real profit, compared to the losses incurred to the public such as seen in public services etc. It'll be a mark up on the capital lent, it won't be a profit, the nation will still make a staggering loss in real terms. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 06 Feb 15 10.05am

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 10.38pm

Quote TUX at 05 Feb 2015 9.59pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.21pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 5.17pm

Quote Stuk at 05 Feb 2015 5.13pm

I've been out and about today and gone past 3 depots where the bus w***ers (Unite) are on strike.

At each site there was a police car, with police officers sitting in it, watching nothing happen.

I do hope they're being made to pay the costs in a similar vein that football clubs are forcibly charged for it, whether they want them or not.

Sorry to crush your hope, but they are not.

Of course they aren't. Like all union actions, they only further drain public resources.

Resources that will be paid back, in full, with profit.

The use of "bankers" should now be an automatic disqualification from a coherent argument.

In theory - In reality, I suspect the so called profit will not really equate to much more than depreciation, and certainly won't account for an actual real profit, compared to the losses incurred to the public such as seen in public services etc.

It'll be a mark up on the capital lent, it won't be a profit, the nation will still make a staggering loss in real terms.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Feb 15 10.06am
Quote Superfly at 06 Feb 2015 9.28am Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying. Christ on a bike! Why's he getting the bus then? Bit shocking that he has to pay. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 06 Feb 15 10.06am

Quote Superfly at 06 Feb 2015 9.28am

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 8.51pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 05 Feb 2015 8.36pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

No one pays on buses anyway, they have Oyster and season tickets

Yes I'm aware of this. Turn the oyster machines off! That way no money is deducted from card which is the same as not paying.
Christ on a bike!

Why's he getting the bus then?

Bit shocking that he has to pay.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hoof Hearted 06 Feb 15 10.47am
Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.26pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner If I had my way, public transport would be free anyway. Are you Greek nick? You support free public transport and unsustainable over-generous public sector pensions?
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Hoof Hearted 06 Feb 15 10.47am

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.26pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

If I had my way, public transport would be free anyway.

Are you Greek nick?

You support free public transport and unsustainable over-generous public sector pensions?

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Feb 15 12.26pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 06 Feb 2015 10.47am Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.26pm Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice. Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing. As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in? Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner If I had my way, public transport would be free anyway. Are you Greek nick? You support free public transport and unsustainable over-generous public sector pensions? Free public transport would be paid for through taxation. Pensions are not over generous. That's a myth. Edited by nickgusset (06 Feb 2015 12.27pm)
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 06 Feb 2015 10.47am

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.26pm

Quote ghosteagle at 05 Feb 2015 6.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Feb 2015 6.16pm

Rather than going on strike, the bus drivers should insist all passengers ride for free. That'd make the bus companies take more notice.

Having said that, I support the strikes. The disparity in pay is amazing.

As for those saying drivers should leave and join the better paying companies... What decade are you living in?

Didn't some other union in Europe do this? Maybe the French underground, seem to remember they carried on working but simply opened all the barriers, seems like a winner

If I had my way, public transport would be free anyway.

Are you Greek nick?

You support free public transport and unsustainable over-generous public sector pensions?

Free public transport would be paid for through taxation.
Pensions are not over generous. That's a myth.

Edited by nickgusset (06 Feb 2015 12.27pm)

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Galv Wallington 06 Feb 15 12.45pm
I ran to work from old Coulsdon to Croydon and back yesterday. At 7pm there were no pickets at South Croydon bus garage. All nice and cosy at home I expect. I have no sympathy.
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Wallington 06 Feb 15 12.45pm

I ran to work from old Coulsdon to Croydon and back yesterday. At 7pm there were no pickets at South Croydon bus garage. All nice and cosy at home I expect.
I have no sympathy.

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