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 Stuk  Top half 06 Mar 15 4.24pm |
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TV companies say they're holding all 3, as planned. A) Will they change format again? B) Will Cameron do all 3? C) Will the DUP stamp their feet some more? D) Will Sinn Fein then decide to do the same
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| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 4.31pm |
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I'm glad they're going ahead. This whole affair makes Cameron look like a right dickhead.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 06 Mar 15 4.39pm |
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Cameron is in a bit of a lose-lose, as I have said before. People already don't rate Ed Miliband. But he can perform in debates. The only thing stopping the Labour poll lead firming up and extending is that EdM is seen as a bad PM. If he performs decently or even outperforms Cameron in the debates then the Tories would be evicerated at the GE. But not taking part seriously risks Cameron looking
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unstatemanlike and 
cowardly. Neither of which are traits the British public tend to take to their hearts in a future PM.| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 4.47pm |
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Quote OknotOK at 06 Mar 2015 4.39pm
Cameron is in a bit of a lose-lose, as I have said before. People already don't rate Ed Miliband. But he can perform in debates. The only thing stopping the Labour poll lead firming up and extending is that EdM is seen as a bad PM. If he performs decently or even outperforms Cameron in the debates then the Tories would be evicerated at the GE. But not taking part seriously risks Cameron looking I can understanding him trying to wriggle out of these debates, but he should've taken into account that broadcasters might not back down. Now even is he changes his mind it looks like it's only because he's been forced to, so the cowardly tag remains.
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| Stuk Top half 06 Mar 15 5.08pm |
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I don't see why the broadcasters think they can dictate what will happen. Name any other program on TV that they demand people attend? The only time I can ever recall any "empty chair" incident was when they replaced Roy Hattersley with a block of lard on HIGNFY, when he cancelled on them at the last minute, for the third time. I think he'd be better off sticking to his guns and letting the broadcasters waste their time.
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| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 5.13pm |
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Quote Stuk at 06 Mar 2015 5.08pm
I don't see why the broadcasters think they can dictate what will happen. Name any other program on TV that they demand people attend? The only time I can ever recall any "empty chair" incident was when they replaced Roy Hattersley with a block of lard on HIGNFY, when he cancelled on them at the last minute, for the third time. I think he'd be better off sticking to his guns and letting the broadcasters waste their time. They're not demanding he attends though. He doesn't have to. It will just look terrible if he doesn't. Edited by imbored (06 Mar 2015 5.13pm)
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| Stuk Top half 06 Mar 15 5.25pm |
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Quote imbored at 06 Mar 2015 5.13pm
Quote Stuk at 06 Mar 2015 5.08pm
I don't see why the broadcasters think they can dictate what will happen. Name any other program on TV that they demand people attend? The only time I can ever recall any "empty chair" incident was when they replaced Roy Hattersley with a block of lard on HIGNFY, when he cancelled on them at the last minute, for the third time. I think he'd be better off sticking to his guns and letting the broadcasters waste their time. They're not demanding he attends though. He doesn't have to. It will just look terrible if he doesn't. Edited by imbored (06 Mar 2015 5.13pm) Splitting hairs. They wouldn't ask someone to go on any other program and then leave an empty space if they declined.
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 06 Mar 15 5.35pm |
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I think if Cameron gets empty chaired it will make his opponents look as daft as him.
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| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 5.40pm |
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Quote We are goin up! at 06 Mar 2015 5.35pm
I think if Cameron gets empty chaired it will make his opponents look as daft as him. He's reitterated that he won't take part. Along the lines of what you've said, they've decided that giving the whole time to Miliband is less damaging to Cameron's election chances than a Cameron vs Miliband debate. It's still pretty cowardly. Hopefully though with the broadcasters going ahead, these debates will be cemented as something that simply has to happen each election with no get out clause, much like how it is in many other countries. Edited by imbored (06 Mar 2015 5.41pm)
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| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 5.46pm |
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Quote Stuk at 06 Mar 2015 5.25pm
Quote imbored at 06 Mar 2015 5.13pm
Quote Stuk at 06 Mar 2015 5.08pm
I don't see why the broadcasters think they can dictate what will happen. Name any other program on TV that they demand people attend? The only time I can ever recall any "empty chair" incident was when they replaced Roy Hattersley with a block of lard on HIGNFY, when he cancelled on them at the last minute, for the third time. I think he'd be better off sticking to his guns and letting the broadcasters waste their time. They're not demanding he attends though. He doesn't have to. It will just look terrible if he doesn't. Edited by imbored (06 Mar 2015 5.13pm) Splitting hairs. They wouldn't ask someone to go on any other program and then leave an empty space if they declined. The debates were extremely popular with the public last time around and people clearly want them to be a mainstay. Surely that can only happen if those supposedly representing us - and all for these debates in the past - show up. Whether Cameron or any other leader personally dislikes the idea is irrelevant to me. In the US debates, you didn't see Obama say "I don't think I'll turn up to this one, cheers"
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.| Midlands Eagle 06 Mar 15 6.06pm |
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Quote imbored at 06 Mar 2015 5.46pm
The debates were extremely popular with the public last time around and people clearly want them to be a mainstay. Surely that can only happen if those supposedly representing us - and all for these debates in the past - show up. Whether Cameron or any other leader personally dislikes the idea is irrelevant to me.
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| imbored UK 06 Mar 15 6.14pm |
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Quote Ian J at 06 Mar 2015 6.06pm
Quote imbored at 06 Mar 2015 5.46pm
The debates were extremely popular with the public last time around and people clearly want them to be a mainstay. Surely that can only happen if those supposedly representing us - and all for these debates in the past - show up. Whether Cameron or any other leader personally dislikes the idea is irrelevant to me.
But if we, the public, feel that these debates should happen every election, it's not different at all because strategic moves to avoid it become a non starter. This is likely what will happen long term, much like the situation in the US. Edited by imbored (06 Mar 2015 6.15pm)
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