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Stirlingsays 16 Jun 14 9.02pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm What more do people want? More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values. Something like that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jun 14 9.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm

What more do people want?

More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values.

Something like that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.08pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm What more do people want? More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values. Something like that. Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme.
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Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.08pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm

What more do people want?

More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values.

Something like that.

Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jun 14 9.28pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm What more do people want? More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values. Something like that. Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme. Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist. You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand. She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use. [Link] I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism. Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream. Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jun 14 9.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm

What more do people want?

More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values.

Something like that.

Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme.

Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist.

You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand.

She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use.

[Link]

I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism.

Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream.

Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.32pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.28pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm What more do people want? More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values. Something like that. Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme. Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist. You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand. She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use. [Link] I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism. Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream. Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing. The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him. These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.
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Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.32pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm

What more do people want?

More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values.

Something like that.

Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme.

Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist.

You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand.

She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use.

[Link]

I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism.

Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream.

Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing.

The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

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aceedi 16 Jun 14 9.35pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.28pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm What more do people want? More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values. Something like that. Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme. Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist. You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand. She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use. [Link] I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism. Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream. Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing. Certainly heads in the sand of 'adulterous' women when they put them in pits to stone them to death, and heads in nooses when they hang people publicly from cranes.
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aceedi

16 Jun 14 9.35pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.08pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Jun 2014 2.53pm

What more do people want?

More criticism of mainstream Islamic belief systems that directly oppose traditional western values.

Something like that.

Mainstream Islamic belief systems = peace and love. the winker aspect of Islam are called extremists for a reason-their views are extreme.

Head in the sand Nick....Head in the sand.....I think maybe you feel that mainstream Islam is reformist.

You should read and listen to Irshad Manji....You might just lift your head back up from the sand.

She is a Muslim anyone would be proud to have in their country. Gay, Islamic and outspoken about the veils people like to use.

[Link]

I bought her book, 'Allah, Liberty and Love'. She very much identifies mainstream Islam as the problem when it comes to the survival of Islamic extremism.

Islamic attitudes in support of apostasy and Sharia law are large enough to call them mainstream.

Mainstream Islam and reformist Islam aren't the same thing.

Certainly heads in the sand of 'adulterous' women when they put them in pits to stone them to death, and heads in nooses when they hang people publicly from cranes.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jun 14 9.42pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him. These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists. Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream. Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me. Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Jun 14 9.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.44pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him. These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists. Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream. Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me. Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen. There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable. I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up. I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.
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Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 9.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.

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aceedi 16 Jun 14 9.47pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him. These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists. Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream. Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me. Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen. There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable. I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up. I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life. What you mean uncontrolled immigration and other benefits of being in the EU?
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aceedi

16 Jun 14 9.47pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.

What you mean uncontrolled immigration and other benefits of being in the EU?

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Stirlingsays 16 Jun 14 9.52pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable. I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up. I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life. You are most welcome.....She is frankly wonderful and I think you will like her.....A lot of what she says applies to all society really and not just Islamic matters. Well, I kind of agree Nick.....This is a small thing in terms of the wider picture....Still, the thread is kind of about Islamic extremism.....So it's worth a post or two I suppose. And did I say Irshad Manji is wonderful? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Jun 14 9.52pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.

You are most welcome.....She is frankly wonderful and I think you will like her.....A lot of what she says applies to all society really and not just Islamic matters.

Well, I kind of agree Nick.....This is a small thing in terms of the wider picture....Still, the thread is kind of about Islamic extremism.....So it's worth a post or two I suppose.

And did I say Irshad Manji is wonderful?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Jordan555x Bromley 16 Jun 14 9.59pm
The World would be a better place if Islam didn't exist and pretty much every other religion.
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Bromley 16 Jun 14 9.59pm

The World would be a better place if Islam didn't exist and pretty much every other religion.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jun 14 10.04pm
Quote Jordan555x at 16 Jun 2014 9.59pm The World would be a better place if Islam didn't exist and pretty much every other religion. Well, yeah....But it is what it is. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jun 14 10.04pm

Quote Jordan555x at 16 Jun 2014 9.59pm

The World would be a better place if Islam didn't exist and pretty much every other religion.

Well, yeah....But it is what it is.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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matt_himself Matataland 16 Jun 14 10.13pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him. These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists. Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream. Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me. Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen. There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable. I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up. I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life. Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb. Your apologist dogma makes me sick. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 16 Jun 14 10.13pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.

Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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