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dingdong Flag bognor regis 21 Apr 14 10.08am Send a Private Message to dingdong Add dingdong as a friend

couldnt they fill in all 4 corners with ehtra seats? as for financing improvements couldnt they sell longterm season tickets like ron noades did

 
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PalaceSi Flag Brockley 21 Apr 14 10.17am Send a Private Message to PalaceSi Add PalaceSi as a friend

Steve Parish spoke on the subject on HOL Radio a couple of weeks ago so thats the latest from the horses mouth.
It involves redevelopment of the Whitehorse and the main stand first. i'm not sure what order.
Sainsbury's need to be involved i would imagine and if we could do the Whitehorse first then ticket revenue would be much less of an issue.
From my point of view, the biggest thing about staying up is the consequences for our stadium, i can't hardly wait to see some sort of plans and i'm sure some will arrive in due course.

 
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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Apr 14 10.52am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote EastEndPalace at 21 Apr 2014 10.08am

Quote skatman at 21 Apr 2014 10.01am

Quote Stirlingsays at 20 Apr 2014 9.58pm

Quote Catfish at 20 Apr 2014 9.47pm

All this "spiritual home" stuff about CP park evades the issue of how fans lving South of the park will get there. Getting to Gipsy Hill or Crystal Palace station is a pain in the butt. Selhurst may have its faults but having three stations nearby is a big plus. This is especially important given that so many fans are ex-Croydon or South Norwood.
If we locate somewhere away from a mainline station then it has to be in an area that allows for dispersal of traffic, ie: major road links. That would suggest places such as A23 or A22. If that is the case then maybe we should be looking for locations at places like Godstone or some brownfield site on the southern M25?


And Selhurst is easy to get too? Hearing moans about it from fans both home and away isn't untypical.

Crystal Palace park is our spiritual home whether you like that or not. It is where we started and it's the natural place that layman fans first looking for Palace expect it to be.

I always thought that CP park had excellent transport links.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2014 9.59pm)

Our spiritual home? Please. We've never played there since any one of us has been supporting Palace. Our home is Selhurst Park, and it's where I hope we remain.


This. We also lose our South London/Croydon identity and become a club from Kent f*** That.

Oh dear, what a shame.....The tears are falling down my face.....Yeah I mean just how could anyone from South London/Croydon still identify themselves as Palace if the club moved back to Crystal Palace park....I mean it's hardly bleeding far.

Now all I know of Palace is Selhurst and have affection for it but you know....I also went to school and understand something about history too....And economics.

By the way guys....The clues in the name, Crystal Palace Park....It's you who need to identify with the real club not imagine it is something it isn't.

I come in to see my beloved Palace from Wisbech and many others make bigger trips.....I think it's a joke when people claim that moving a club changes things for them...All clubs have to evolve to survive.....If us moving a bit did affect your support then you weren't really that interested in the club to begin with.

Parish and co know that for Palace to progress that we need to relocate.....Redeveloping Selhurst is the secondary option not the first.....We may be forced into it but it is by no means the preferred option.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2014 10.54am)

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 21 Apr 14 11.02am

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Apr 2014 10.52am

Quote EastEndPalace at 21 Apr 2014 10.08am

Quote skatman at 21 Apr 2014 10.01am

Quote Stirlingsays at 20 Apr 2014 9.58pm

Quote Catfish at 20 Apr 2014 9.47pm

All this "spiritual home" stuff about CP park evades the issue of how fans lving South of the park will get there. Getting to Gipsy Hill or Crystal Palace station is a pain in the butt. Selhurst may have its faults but having three stations nearby is a big plus. This is especially important given that so many fans are ex-Croydon or South Norwood.
If we locate somewhere away from a mainline station then it has to be in an area that allows for dispersal of traffic, ie: major road links. That would suggest places such as A23 or A22. If that is the case then maybe we should be looking for locations at places like Godstone or some brownfield site on the southern M25?


And Selhurst is easy to get too? Hearing moans about it from fans both home and away isn't untypical.

Crystal Palace park is our spiritual home whether you like that or not. It is where we started and it's the natural place that layman fans first looking for Palace expect it to be.

I always thought that CP park had excellent transport links.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2014 9.59pm)

Our spiritual home? Please. We've never played there since any one of us has been supporting Palace. Our home is Selhurst Park, and it's where I hope we remain.


This. We also lose our South London/Croydon identity and become a club from Kent f*** That.

Oh dear, what a shame.....The tears are falling down my face.....Yeah I mean just how could anyone from South London/Croydon still identify themselves as Palace if the club moved back to Crystal Palace park....I mean it's hardly bleeding far.

Now all I know of Palace is Selhurst and have affection for it but you know....I also went to school and understand something about history too....And economics.

By the way guys....The clues in the name, Crystal Palace Park....It's you who need to identify with the real club not imagine it is something it isn't.

I come in to see my beloved Palace from Wisbech and many others make bigger trips.....I think it's a joke when people claim that moving a club changes things for them...All clubs have to evolve to survive.....If us moving a bit did affect your support then you weren't really that interested in the club to begin with.

Parish and co know that for Palace to progress that we need to relocate.....Redeveloping Selhurst is the secondary option not the first.....We may be forced into it but it is by no means the preferred option.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2014 10.54am)

Wisbech!
That is a journey and a half. It raises a key question concerning the location of the stadium - where do Palace supporters live? I suspect that if you had a heat map from 1972 and now you would see that the first one was tightly packed around Norwood and Croydon. A present one is likely to show tat support has spread very widely. Palace must have this data from their membership and season ticket sales. It would be interesting to know what proportion of support now travels from outside Croydon.

 

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EastEndPalace Flag WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 21 Apr 14 11.29am

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Apr 2014 10.52am

Quote EastEndPalace at 21 Apr 2014 10.08am

Quote skatman at 21 Apr 2014 10.01am

Quote Stirlingsays at 20 Apr 2014 9.58pm

Quote Catfish at 20 Apr 2014 9.47pm

All this "spiritual home" stuff about CP park evades the issue of how fans lving South of the park will get there. Getting to Gipsy Hill or Crystal Palace station is a pain in the butt. Selhurst may have its faults but having three stations nearby is a big plus. This is especially important given that so many fans are ex-Croydon or South Norwood.
If we locate somewhere away from a mainline station then it has to be in an area that allows for dispersal of traffic, ie: major road links. That would suggest places such as A23 or A22. If that is the case then maybe we should be looking for locations at places like Godstone or some brownfield site on the southern M25?


And Selhurst is easy to get too? Hearing moans about it from fans both home and away isn't untypical.

Crystal Palace park is our spiritual home whether you like that or not. It is where we started and it's the natural place that layman fans first looking for Palace expect it to be.

I always thought that CP park had excellent transport links.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2014 9.59pm)

Our spiritual home? Please. We've never played there since any one of us has been supporting Palace. Our home is Selhurst Park, and it's where I hope we remain.


This. We also lose our South London/Croydon identity and become a club from Kent f*** That.

Oh dear, what a shame.....The tears are falling down my face.....Yeah I mean just how could anyone from South London/Croydon still identify themselves as Palace if the club moved back to Crystal Palace park....I mean it's hardly bleeding far.

Now all I know of Palace is Selhurst and have affection for it but you know....I also went to school and understand something about history too....And economics.

By the way guys....The clues in the name, Crystal Palace Park....It's you who need to identify with the real club not imagine it is something it isn't.

I come in to see my beloved Palace from Wisbech and many others make bigger trips.....I think it's a joke when people claim that moving a club changes things for them...All clubs have to evolve to survive.....If us moving a bit did affect your support then you weren't really that interested in the club to begin with.

Parish and co know that for Palace to progress that we need to relocate.....Redeveloping Selhurst is the secondary option not the first.....We may be forced into it but it is by no means the preferred option.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2014 10.54am)


Well you can have a kent club all you like. Selhurst has been our home since the 20's. Selhurst is our home. Not Crystal Palace park. I would hate an arena type stadium with no atmosphere. Selhurst is the place to be.

 
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tedwood Flag london 21 Apr 14 12.07pm Send a Private Message to tedwood Add tedwood as a friend

Crystal palace park has 5 stations nearby, c,palace ,anerley, penge west, penge east,and gypsy hill, plus very good to get to by bus...

 
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mooro Flag Within the Temples of Syrinx 21 Apr 14 12.27pm Send a Private Message to mooro Add mooro as a friend

Would like to see the redevelopment based on White Hart Lane with new exec boxes sandwiched between 2 tiers along a new Arthur stand sending the away fans to the Whitehorse after removal of the old boxes.2 tiers on a new main stand and fill in all corners.

 

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dannyb1 Flag Chichester 21 Apr 14 1.26pm Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

I don't see us going to CCP the NIMBYS will have there way on that but I wouldn't be surprised if the crystal palace replica gets the nod.

It is a pig to get to at peak times around the triangle,
coming in from church rd, elmers end rd, croydon rd, auckland rd end or the anerley rd end. The last 2 are quite bad now.

If we redevelop selhurst we would have to rip out the arthur and whitehorse and start again, behind the E6 entrance/exit is sainsburys delivery entrance so might not be able to use that space, we should rip down the arthur and pull it back to the pavement of park rd with a bigger concourse and a better stand and camera facility/gantry.

And all 4 corners seemed in somehow to raise capacity.

Edited by dannyb1 (21 Apr 2014 1.27pm)

 
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Quote Catfish at 21 Apr 2014 11.02am


Wisbech!
That is a journey and a half. It raises a key question concerning the location of the stadium - where do Palace supporters live? I suspect that if you had a heat map from 1972 and now you would see that the first one was tightly packed around Norwood and Croydon. A present one is likely to show tat support has spread very widely. Palace must have this data from their membership and season ticket sales. It would be interesting to know what proportion of support now travels from outside Croydon.

Some of us come from even further afield, like outside of the UK.

Crystal Palace Park would be the ideal location, both in name and in terms of the quality/size of stadium that could be built. With such an investment in the area, I'm sure transport links would be further improved. You even bring stations into play such as Sydenham Hill which is very close and on a fast line from Victoria.


 
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Selhurstboys Flag Basel 21 Apr 14 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Selhurstboys Add Selhurstboys as a friend

Quote Catfish at 21 Apr 2014 11.02am

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Apr 2014 10.52am

Quote EastEndPalace at 21 Apr 2014 10.08am

Quote skatman at 21 Apr 2014 10.01am

Quote Stirlingsays at 20 Apr 2014 9.58pm

Quote Catfish at 20 Apr 2014 9.47pm

All this "spiritual home" stuff about CP park evades the issue of how fans lving South of the park will get there. Getting to Gipsy Hill or Crystal Palace station is a pain in the butt. Selhurst may have its faults but having three stations nearby is a big plus. This is especially important given that so many fans are ex-Croydon or South Norwood.
If we locate somewhere away from a mainline station then it has to be in an area that allows for dispersal of traffic, ie: major road links. That would suggest places such as A23 or A22. If that is the case then maybe we should be looking for locations at places like Godstone or some brownfield site on the southern M25?


And Selhurst is easy to get too? Hearing moans about it from fans both home and away isn't untypical.

Crystal Palace park is our spiritual home whether you like that or not. It is where we started and it's the natural place that layman fans first looking for Palace expect it to be.

I always thought that CP park had excellent transport links.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2014 9.59pm)

Our spiritual home? Please. We've never played there since any one of us has been supporting Palace. Our home is Selhurst Park, and it's where I hope we remain.


This. We also lose our South London/Croydon identity and become a club from Kent f*** That.

Oh dear, what a shame.....The tears are falling down my face.....Yeah I mean just how could anyone from South London/Croydon still identify themselves as Palace if the club moved back to Crystal Palace park....I mean it's hardly bleeding far.

Now all I know of Palace is Selhurst and have affection for it but you know....I also went to school and understand something about history too....And economics.

By the way guys....The clues in the name, Crystal Palace Park....It's you who need to identify with the real club not imagine it is something it isn't.

I come in to see my beloved Palace from Wisbech and many others make bigger trips.....I think it's a joke when people claim that moving a club changes things for them...All clubs have to evolve to survive.....If us moving a bit did affect your support then you weren't really that interested in the club to begin with.

Parish and co know that for Palace to progress that we need to relocate.....Redeveloping Selhurst is the secondary option not the first.....We may be forced into it but it is by no means the preferred option.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2014 10.54am)

Wisbech!
That is a journey and a half. It raises a key question concerning the location of the stadium - where do Palace supporters live? I suspect that if you had a heat map from 1972 and now you would see that the first one was tightly packed around Norwood and Croydon. A present one is likely to show tat support has spread very widely. Palace must have this data from their membership and season ticket sales. It would be interesting to know what proportion of support now travels from outside Croydon.


Basel, Switzerland would suit me best and save me a fortune in flights and hotels! :-)

Nope, for me we've got to where we are...Palace is Selhurst and Thornton Heath not Penge and Gypsy Hill. In any case I find it very easy from LGW to East Croydon and then one stop to Selhurst. And what about my favourite pub, Two Brewers, couldn't give that up!

 
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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 21 Apr 14 1.57pm

I suppose if the rebuild of the palace gets the go ahead it creates an incentive to improve links to the park. I wonder if two big developments would be seen as too much to handle at the same time?

 

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Quote dannyb1 at 21 Apr 2014 1.26pm

I don't see us going to CCP the NIMBYS will have there way on that but I wouldn't be surprised if the crystal palace replica gets the nod.

It is a pig to get to at peak times around the triangle,
coming in from church rd, elmers end rd, croydon rd, auckland rd end or the anerley rd end. The last 2 are quite bad now.

If we redevelop selhurst we would have to rip out the arthur and whitehorse and start again, behind the E6 entrance/exit is sainsburys delivery entrance so might not be able to use that space, we should rip down the arthur and pull it back to the pavement of park rd with a bigger concourse and a better stand and camera facility/gantry.

And all 4 corners seemed in somehow to raise capacity.

Edited by dannyb1 (21 Apr 2014 1.27pm)


This. The residents around Crystal Palace Park are a notoriously powerful group who have mounted countless successful campaigns to prevent any redevelopment of the park. To buy into this idea would be foolhardy, we'd spend years in negotiation and would end up pouring millions down the toilet.

 

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