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Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 9.54am | |
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Quote monkey at 18 Mar 2014 10.13pm
Proper old fashioned football manager, he's got a bunch of players not good enough for premier league football organised, commited and in with a shout of staying up.
Thanks for that, but I am not so sure. Stoke seem pretty safe now,and to be honest I hope you are as you are a proper football club and there are n't many of us in the Premier. But Palace have some tough games coming up and have to get something from sgames where there seems to be no chance. But thanks to Pulis we are still in with a shout and with Holloway we would have been down by Christmas. The one thing I thank Holloway for is walking away when he realised that he is not good enough to manage in the Premier. Pulis is a very experience manager and I am delighted he is here - he is what we need.
TP will devide supporters. There will be the 'as long we stay up' group and the 'i cant watch this kind of football' group. To survive hes exactly what you need. Stoke are safe now qand playing really well, most stoke fans are hoping Palace survive too. A proper Club with Proper fans. Ha ha, we do seem to have that atm
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peterg Anerley 19 Mar 14 11.31am | |
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He's doing his best and trying all he knows but his biggest handicap is our lack of strikers who can magic goals. Most of our rivals have at least one of those which is why they get unexpected results against top-half teams. Believe as we might, we can never expect the unexpected from our set of strikers. The one who did have the magic is Murray but he is still struggling to get back where he was in the first part of last season, when he was scoring for us from all angles. Gayle's winning goal against Hull is the one exception to all this but he's not even making the starting line-up.
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FinchleyEagle 19 Mar 14 1.39pm | |
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Firstly to the OP - mate thank you for coming on here and sharing - really interesting to hear your views and they pretty much match what I would expect. Seems like you have enough experience with message boards to ignore the keyboard warriors too. I have discussed our woeful goals for column with my boss who's an Arsenal purist. While he would never want to watch a game even he concedes that TP was (and still is) the only manager who could keep us up. He thinks we should bin him in the summer but that's a very naive comment as the club as a whole needs to 'get used' to being in the prem. I also think our current lack of goals has as much to do with the fact that we have literally no premier league goalscorers so he has to be mindful of that when planning his tactics. He cannot guarantee a goal so works on trying to ensure we don't concede. Makes sense to me, and as a fan of many years and being more circumspect these days I'm happy to ensure we stay in the PL for a few seasons before we look for more flair - the trapdoor doesn't go away - just ask Charlton or Fulham who both had several seasons in the prem before going down. As Fulham surely will this year. Interesting comment about playing players out of position and wingers who will defend. Rings very true. Thanks again and good luck - think Stoke and Palace have a lot in common as clubs. Edited by FinchleyEagle (19 Mar 2014 1.41pm)
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pstrutt Busselton, WA 19 Mar 14 1.44pm | |
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Quote beer man at 18 Mar 2014 4.48pm
There's an 'Away Fans' area so why don't you post on there; there's always a few ar$e lickers who'll talk to anyone.
What do you mean, why should he? Why should he what? I asked a question, why bother posting when it's only total tosh. In any case the guy is a new poster and is an away fan that most of us would like to make welcome. What a thing to say, that only arse lickers would want to debate with him. No, most of us want to learn from Stoke's experience. And a lot of us like to make new friends, although clearly not all. I can't work out if you are trying to defend the indefensible or complaining that he isn't the only pillock on here. Dont worry Maple we have to understand there are some really uneducated dumb lowlife's on here, its not there fault its there mothers, just let it go over your head. They cannot help who they are. He should consider his reponse before be writes it. If the mods want to remove it or simply move it to Away fans then that is for them to decide, but I wouldn't have thought they would be so officious.
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1steino Stoke 19 Mar 14 2.45pm | |
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Quote FinchleyEagle at 19 Mar 2014 1.39pm
Firstly to the OP - mate thank you for coming on here and sharing - really interesting to hear your views and they pretty much match what I would expect. Seems like you have enough experience with message boards to ignore the keyboard warriors too. I have discussed our woeful goals for column with my boss who's an Arsenal purist. While he would never want to watch a game even he concedes that TP was (and still is) the only manager who could keep us up. He thinks we should bin him in the summer but that's a very naive comment as the club as a whole needs to 'get used' to being in the prem. I also think our current lack of goals has as much to do with the fact that we have literally no premier league goalscorers so he has to be mindful of that when planning his tactics. He cannot guarantee a goal so works on trying to ensure we don't concede. Makes sense to me, and as a fan of many years and being more circumspect these days I'm happy to ensure we stay in the PL for a few seasons before we look for more flair - the trapdoor doesn't go away - just ask Charlton or Fulham who both had several seasons in the prem before going down. As Fulham surely will this year. Interesting comment about playing players out of position and wingers who will defend. Rings very true. Thanks again and good luck - think Stoke and Palace have a lot in common as clubs. Edited by FinchleyEagle (19 Mar 2014 1.41pm) TP's problem is the way he sets his team up. He doesnt create many goal scoring opportunities and because of the direct style his teams dont retain possesion very often. Stoke always had the lowest possesion figures in the league and lowest goal scorers in the football league for 4 of the 5 permier league years. We only ever had James Beattie who you would class as a goal scorer and he got headbutted by TP. Goal Scorers in this league cost a lot of money and he struggles to attract them because of the direct style. Id be surprised if Gayle played up front for you due to his size. You may see him playing out wide if hes willing to do the defensive side also. Like i say, im interested to see if he does anything different. At first he seemed like he was but hes starting to revert back to old habbits.
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FinchleyEagle 19 Mar 14 11.11pm | |
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Quote FinchleyEagle at 19 Mar 2014 1.39pm
Firstly to the OP - mate thank you for coming on here and sharing - really interesting to hear your views and they pretty much match what I would expect. Seems like you have enough experience with message boards to ignore the keyboard warriors too. I have discussed our woeful goals for column with my boss who's an Arsenal purist. While he would never want to watch a game even he concedes that TP was (and still is) the only manager who could keep us up. He thinks we should bin him in the summer but that's a very naive comment as the club as a whole needs to 'get used' to being in the prem. I also think our current lack of goals has as much to do with the fact that we have literally no premier league goalscorers so he has to be mindful of that when planning his tactics. He cannot guarantee a goal so works on trying to ensure we don't concede. Makes sense to me, and as a fan of many years and being more circumspect these days I'm happy to ensure we stay in the PL for a few seasons before we look for more flair - the trapdoor doesn't go away - just ask Charlton or Fulham who both had several seasons in the prem before going down. As Fulham surely will this year. Interesting comment about playing players out of position and wingers who will defend. Rings very true. Thanks again and good luck - think Stoke and Palace have a lot in common as clubs. Edited by FinchleyEagle (19 Mar 2014 1.41pm) TP's problem is the way he sets his team up. He doesnt create many goal scoring opportunities and because of the direct style his teams dont retain possesion very often. Stoke always had the lowest possesion figures in the league and lowest goal scorers in the football league for 4 of the 5 permier league years. We only ever had James Beattie who you would class as a goal scorer and he got headbutted by TP. Goal Scorers in this league cost a lot of money and he struggles to attract them because of the direct style. Id be surprised if Gayle played up front for you due to his size. You may see him playing out wide if hes willing to do the defensive side also. Like i say, im interested to see if he does anything different. At first he seemed like he was but hes starting to revert back to old habbits. Not a chance this season, he doesn't have the tools to do the job, so will stick to what he knows. He really likes Ward and has played him at CM and LB when he is a RB, and definitely seen our wingers (Puncheon & Bolasie) tracking back hard a lot. Getting Ince on loan seems to go against his type, so that was surprising. Currently we've had some tough games and there has been plenty of angst about the defensive tactics but I see he has had little choice - when we can attack with more confidence against lower opposition under TP, we have, so I expect more in the games against West Ham, Cardiff, Fulham and Villa. The rest will be about trying to nick a point and we are certainly very difficult to break down. Very low goals against figure for where we are and plenty were shipped before TP. I imagine if he'd been here from day 1 we'd be safe already. How does Hughes compare ?
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palace chick South Croydon 19 Mar 14 11.20pm | |
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Quote peterg at 19 Mar 2014 11.31am
He's doing his best and trying all he knows but his biggest handicap is our lack of strikers who can magic goals. Most of our rivals have at least one of those which is why they get unexpected results against top-half teams. Believe as we might, we can never expect the unexpected from our set of strikers. The one who did have the magic is Murray but he is still struggling to get back where he was in the first part of last season, when he was scoring for us from all angles. Gayle's winning goal against Hull is the one exception to all this but he's not even making the starting line-up.
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Dangermouse Hastings 19 Mar 14 11.55pm | |
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For my part the football is horrendous and I know it won't change next season.
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goodersgold Hastings 20 Mar 14 10.45am | |
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Quote Dangermouse at 19 Mar 2014 11.55pm
For my part the football is horrendous and I know it won't change next season.
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1steino Stoke 20 Mar 14 11.34am | |
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Not a chance this season, he doesn't have the tools to do the job, so will stick to what he knows. He really likes Ward and has played him at CM and LB when he is a RB, and definitely seen our wingers (Puncheon & Bolasie) tracking back hard a lot. Getting Ince on loan seems to go against his type, so that was surprising. Currently we've had some tough games and there has been plenty of angst about the defensive tactics but I see he has had little choice - when we can attack with more confidence against lower opposition under TP, we have, so I expect more in the games against West Ham, Cardiff, Fulham and Villa. The rest will be about trying to nick a point and we are certainly very difficult to break down. Very low goals against figure for where we are and plenty were shipped before TP. I imagine if he'd been here from day 1 we'd be safe already. Hughes is Tony Pulis without the frustrations. He still has the physical side with a big lad up fron ie crouch. We arent conceeding a lot of goals and go long when we need to. He plays players on form and in their correct position. Tries to win every game and not to not lose. He doesnt talk other teams up only ever talks about his own club. He gives licence to midfielders to go forward and espress themselves as long as one sits. Full backs get forward too. Whether we will be different next season i dont know. I dont if we go long at times because crouch is really all we have or if thats how he likes to play. We play a lot more to win which is all we asked, we knew we could of played a lot more under tone but hed never let the shackles off. The back 4 hasnt changed much other than we signed Pieters at left back so i think them working with Tone for 5 years has halped, we can still defend really well.
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FinchleyEagle 20 Mar 14 1.30pm | |
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Quote 1steino at 20 Mar 2014 11.34am
Not a chance this season, he doesn't have the tools to do the job, so will stick to what he knows. He really likes Ward and has played him at CM and LB when he is a RB, and definitely seen our wingers (Puncheon & Bolasie) tracking back hard a lot. Getting Ince on loan seems to go against his type, so that was surprising. Currently we've had some tough games and there has been plenty of angst about the defensive tactics but I see he has had little choice - when we can attack with more confidence against lower opposition under TP, we have, so I expect more in the games against West Ham, Cardiff, Fulham and Villa. The rest will be about trying to nick a point and we are certainly very difficult to break down. Very low goals against figure for where we are and plenty were shipped before TP. I imagine if he'd been here from day 1 we'd be safe already. Hughes is Tony Pulis without the frustrations. He still has the physical side with a big lad up fron ie crouch. We arent conceeding a lot of goals and go long when we need to. He plays players on form and in their correct position. Tries to win every game and not to not lose. He doesnt talk other teams up only ever talks about his own club. He gives licence to midfielders to go forward and espress themselves as long as one sits. Full backs get forward too. Whether we will be different next season i dont know. I dont if we go long at times because crouch is really all we have or if thats how he likes to play. We play a lot more to win which is all we asked, we knew we could of played a lot more under tone but hed never let the shackles off. The back 4 hasnt changed much other than we signed Pieters at left back so i think them working with Tone for 5 years has halped, we can still defend really well. Interesting, always thought Hughes was a rubbish manager although both Fulham and Wales did well with him. Good luck for the rest of the season
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1steino Stoke 20 Mar 14 3.59pm | |
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Quote 1steino at 20 Mar 2014 11.34am
Not a chance this season, he doesn't have the tools to do the job, so will stick to what he knows. He really likes Ward and has played him at CM and LB when he is a RB, and definitely seen our wingers (Puncheon & Bolasie) tracking back hard a lot. Getting Ince on loan seems to go against his type, so that was surprising. Currently we've had some tough games and there has been plenty of angst about the defensive tactics but I see he has had little choice - when we can attack with more confidence against lower opposition under TP, we have, so I expect more in the games against West Ham, Cardiff, Fulham and Villa. The rest will be about trying to nick a point and we are certainly very difficult to break down. Very low goals against figure for where we are and plenty were shipped before TP. I imagine if he'd been here from day 1 we'd be safe already. Hughes is Tony Pulis without the frustrations. He still has the physical side with a big lad up fron ie crouch. We arent conceeding a lot of goals and go long when we need to. He plays players on form and in their correct position. Tries to win every game and not to not lose. He doesnt talk other teams up only ever talks about his own club. He gives licence to midfielders to go forward and espress themselves as long as one sits. Full backs get forward too. Whether we will be different next season i dont know. I dont if we go long at times because crouch is really all we have or if thats how he likes to play. We play a lot more to win which is all we asked, we knew we could of played a lot more under tone but hed never let the shackles off. The back 4 hasnt changed much other than we signed Pieters at left back so i think them working with Tone for 5 years has halped, we can still defend really well. Interesting, always thought Hughes was a rubbish manager although both Fulham and Wales did well with him. Good luck for the rest of the season
Good luck to you boys as well. Hope im on this board next season discussing our up and coming games.
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