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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Jan 14 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Quote Ian J at 25 Jan 2014 5.29pm

You claim to trust in their judgement. Did you say that when they employed George Burley and Ian Holloway too?


I did when they sacked Burley and I did when they hired IH. People conveniently forget we had no Garvan, Moritz or Williams for over 2 months. We were only ever going to reach the play offs. Luckily we did, granted, mainly because of the spread of points and DF bottling it 'Cardiff style', but please don't try and paint this picture of SP and 2010 lacking any football clout. Burley didn't work, it was corrected with DF preserving our marginal leads or draws, and IH knowing what it takes to go up.

We need players. They know it as much as we do, but there's more than one area that needs filling and a consequence of it failing badly. How many of the early January transfers would've accepted a relegation clause in their contract? Highly likely that none of them would. We are now also more vulnerable at LB.

I trust TP, but don't forget that most managers ultimately couldn't give a fook what happens to most clubs/employers after they've left.

 


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crystalpark7 Flag London 25 Jan 14 7.00pm Send a Private Message to crystalpark7 Add crystalpark7 as a friend

Sadly have to agree with the OP. Tan may be a crazy owner, but he definitely had a right to question some of their buys. Medal was apparently offered for £6 million and Cardiff bought him for £11 million. His other buys seem overpriced. He was operating with a budget of a top 10 club not a Championship or newly promoted team. Time will tell, but I did not see why it was a particularly good appointment at the time and I still don't now.

 

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sueagle2012 Flag 25 Jan 14 7.21pm Send a Private Message to sueagle2012 Add sueagle2012 as a friend

I dont think a club like ours needs a guy like Moody. Once we are better established in PL..and have more money to splash around..maybe.

As has been pointed out already there are major questionmarks over his track record at Cardiff..and although I am no fan of Tan(his PR is so bad)..he is right to say Moody and Mackay wasted a lot of his money...and hence right to sack them..esp Moody. OK ..to replace him with 21 year old who could not get a work permit was very bad PR.
But few can argue that signings like Cornelius and Medel can be regarded as success...esp with inflated wages and transfer fees involved.

At Palace..I am sure Pulis would prefer to work directly with the board on transfers. At best..Moody can be a European scout...Without big money to offer he will have difficulty in attracting suitable players.

I hope I am wrong but I would be very surprised if Moody will be regarded as a success in 12 months time.


Edited by sueagle2012 (25 Jan 2014 7.24pm)

 

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Ljb Flag Sutton 25 Jan 14 7.48pm Send a Private Message to Ljb Add Ljb as a friend

Baffled as to what this guy actually does. We managed to sign 16 players in the summer, albeit over a longer time period, with no such staff. Now we have a 'specialist recruit' type guy who has so far (seemingly) done absolutely nothing!

 

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 25 Jan 14 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Win last week go 16th and everything is wonderful.

Lose a tupenny ha'penny cup game a week later and Alexander's a prick, Moody's a t***, McCarthy's a donkey, 2010 lied and Pulis is about to walk as the club spirals into oblivion and apparently Tann is just misunderstood.

I've died and gone to Brighton...................

 


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KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Jan 14 8.10pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Quote Dangermouse at 25 Jan 2014 8.03pm

Win last week go 16th and everything is wonderful.

Lose a tupenny ha'penny cup game a week later and Alexander's a prick, Moody's a t***, McCarthy's a donkey, 2010 lied and Pulis is about to walk as the club spirals into oblivion and apparently Tann is just misunderstood.

I've died and gone to Brighton...................

It probably escaped your notice but this thread as well as the "Phil Alexander" one were both started a couple of hours before the kick off of the "tupenny ha'penny cup game" that we lost.

Try getting your facts right if you feel the need for a rant


Edited by Ian J (25 Jan 2014 8.10pm)

 

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palaceareback Flag Surrey 25 Jan 14 8.11pm Send a Private Message to palaceareback Add palaceareback as a friend

Quote Dangermouse at 25 Jan 2014 8.03pm

Win last week go 16th and everything is wonderful.

Lose a tupenny ha'penny cup game a week later and Alexander's a prick, Moody's a t***, McCarthy's a donkey, 2010 lied and Pulis is about to walk as the club spirals into oblivion and apparently Tann is just misunderstood.

I've died and gone to Brighton...................

Pretty much sums up how absolutely ridiculous some of our fans are.

It is beyond pathetic what people forget about the recent history of this club & how far we have come in no time at all.

WE DON'T HAVE MUCH MONEY!!!

Let them do their job!!

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 25 Jan 14 8.15pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

In the end, it's all a bit of a Mexican stand-off. This board (HOL) seems to be divided between those who seem not to have a lot of commercial experience and are thus simply enthralled with CPFC2010 to the point of pretty much supporting them hook, line and sinker versus those who look favourably on CPFC2010, but call a spade a spade and think saving the club from administration in the past doesn't give them carte blanche to never be asked difficult questions in the present. Jeez, there was one fella on another thread whose argument on CPFC's behalf about Sissoko ran to "what kind of job interviewee expected his prospective employer to pay for his dinner and who would want to employ someone like that who did?" About all that tells me is the writer has never been interviewed for a high-level or important job, hence (in part) my observation that those who do think 2010 can do no wrong seem extremely unaware commercially and quite naive about managing operational risk, at least to me.

All in all, there's not a lot of point debating it further. Of course, we can all say "wait until the window is closed before you judge Parish et al" but the truth is, we don't have to wait. He's already had one window in August and he's had three quarters of a window this month in which the manager expressly requested we get our business done early. So we already know the score. We got our trousers taken down in August because we left things until the last week and guess what? Here we are again...five days to go...no one signed and a failure to even get a player who is unemployed and who the manager actively wanted over the line.

But hey ho, for some of you CPFC2010 are, indeed, magic. Ask no questions, see no evil I guess. It's depressing that people think ostriches care but CPFC2010 must be absolutely thrilled to have a following that's giving them carte blanche to do whatever the hell they like. There's a very fine line between loyalty and stupidity in supporting anything (this is often said about patriotism, too.) Reading some of the comments here make it pretty clear more than a few people have crossed it. We ALL support CPFC 2010 but the blind supporters make me genuinely depressed.

 


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maxipalace Flag in a box 25 Jan 14 8.23pm

those 4 transfers in the article incurred over £2 million in agents fees.

I wasnt impressed by his signings for Cardiff, so this sort of article dosent suprise me. Moody hasnt done anything to impress me that he can find a good value bargain

 

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 25 Jan 14 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Quote Ian J at 25 Jan 2014 8.10pm

Quote Dangermouse at 25 Jan 2014 8.03pm

Win last week go 16th and everything is wonderful.

Lose a tupenny ha'penny cup game a week later and Alexander's a prick, Moody's a t***, McCarthy's a donkey, 2010 lied and Pulis is about to walk as the club spirals into oblivion and apparently Tann is just misunderstood.

I've died and gone to Brighton...................

It probably escaped your notice but this thread as well as the "Phil Alexander" one were both started a couple of hours before the kick off of the "tupenny ha'penny cup game" that we lost.

Try getting your facts right if you feel the need for a rant


Edited by Ian J (25 Jan 2014 8.10pm)


Rant, where.
The ranting is by the we must buy everyone and now brigade.
Sorry I didn't check when the threads started, but it makes it all the better knowing that the unjustified abuse of these two men started before we even lost a pointless cup game.

 


That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 25 Jan 14 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 25 Jan 2014 8.15pm

In the end, it's all a bit of a Mexican stand-off. This board (HOL) seems to be divided between those who seem not to have a lot of commercial experience and are thus simply enthralled with CPFC2010 to the point of pretty much supporting them hook, line and sinker versus those who look favourably on CPFC2010, but call a spade a spade and think saving the club from administration in the past doesn't give them carte blanche to never be asked difficult questions in the present. Jeez, there was one fella on another thread whose argument on CPFC's behalf about Sissoko ran to "what kind of job interviewee expected his prospective employer to pay for his dinner and who would want to employ someone like that who did?" About all that tells me is the writer has never been interviewed for a high-level or important job, hence (in part) my observation that those who do think 2010 can do no wrong seem extremely unaware commercially and quite naive about managing operational risk, at least to me.

All in all, there's not a lot of point debating it further. Of course, we can all say "wait until the window is closed before you judge Parish et al" but the truth is, we don't have to wait. He's already had one window in August and he's had three quarters of a window this month in which the manager expressly requested we get our business done early. So we already know the score. We got our trousers taken down in August because we left things until the last week and guess what? Here we are again...five days to go...no one signed and a failure to even get a player who is unemployed and who the manager actively wanted over the line.

But hey ho, for some of you CPFC2010 are, indeed, magic. Ask no questions, see no evil I guess. It's depressing that people think ostriches care but CPFC2010 must be absolutely thrilled to have a following that's giving them carte blanche to do whatever the hell they like. There's a very fine line between loyalty and stupidity in supporting anything (this is often said about patriotism, too.) Reading some of the comments here make it pretty clear more than a few people have crossed it. We ALL support CPFC 2010 but the blind supporters make me genuinely depressed.


It's their Club they can do what they want.
I support Palace whatever division they are in ans if that makes me wrong then thank God for that, as for business acumen, I've never run one so don't have any, so preaching to me is pretty pointless. With all the successful multi millionaires on this board though I'm sure you can have a nice little condescending chinwag with each other.

 


That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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est1905 Flag 25 Jan 14 8.45pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Quote Joeberto at 25 Jan 2014 5.28pm

Quote est1905 at 25 Jan 2014 5.21pm

Quote elgrande at 25 Jan 2014 5.15pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 25 Jan 2014 5.13pm

Quote Dangermouse at 25 Jan 2014 4.33pm

On the other hand we might not be an attractive proposition and we don't pay big wages, compared to other clubs.

People are so quick to attack others and with actually no evidence to back it up.

Let's throw caution to the wind, what's the worst that could happen? I'm all for a third spell of admin...........

This would be a sensible post if the world was black and white and paying one or two key players bigger wages would be absolutely certain to end in administration. But, as we all know, that's not the case. Plenty of clubs -- Everton for one -- operate within a wage structure which, when it is sensible to do so, they adjust -- as they are about to do for Baines. The bottom line is that good owners DON'T impose limitations; they deliver success while at the same time mitigating risk. But we seem to think that zero risk, even if it means zero success, is a prudent operating model. And it's not.


Edited by sydtheeagle (25 Jan 2014 5.13pm)

How long has Everton been in the premier league.with all the Sky money.

Pathetic comparison.

You could turn that argument on its head and say Everton have been in the Premier league for so long because they know when to make adjustments to their budgets, etc.


You could. But you'd still just be making it up, and you'd probably be wrong.

Maybe, I'm not always right. But you know what? I seriously doubt you are very often


 

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