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nosy leicestershire 19 Jan 14 5.26pm
I,m still a Parish fan,some of these posters don,t appreciate what we,ve got.as soon as Murry is back the same bunch will be saying ;sell him ,no good;
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nosy

leicestershire 19 Jan 14 5.26pm

I,m still a Parish fan,some of these posters don,t appreciate what we,ve got.as soon as Murry is back the same bunch will be saying ;sell him ,no good;

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jan 14 5.26pm
Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm Quote sydtheeagle at 19 Jan 2014 11.38am I wish, as I said on another thread, that Parrish would shut the f&k up. That man is a haircut in search of a camera and a microphone. Moody has been hired as the expert in the transfer market/man responsible for making things happen so it might be an idea for Parrish to let someone who actually has a skill set in the area of player movements handle media questions on the subject. Otherwise, what's the point of having Moody? More nonsense from you Syd. Steve Parish is the boss and controls the money - not Iain Moody so is the main man. Also, he is much better with dealing with the media than Moody whose job is not speaking to the media. I want our chairman to speak to the fans via the media - otherwise how will we know what is going on! Essentially we're a small business and not a multi-national which is what the 6 clubs syd has used as examples where the DoF explains transfer strategies to the media. As we're small, Parish can overlook almost everything. As he's doing that, there's no need for trouble-shooting or wondering how the f#ck we got into a mess in 1/2/3 years time. We do need additions though. SP knows it, hence we're trying, but they won't be 'big.' COYP*
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jan 14 5.26pm

Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 19 Jan 2014 11.38am

I wish, as I said on another thread, that Parrish would shut the f*&k up. That man is a haircut in search of a camera and a microphone. Moody has been hired as the expert in the transfer market/man responsible for making things happen so it might be an idea for Parrish to let someone who actually has a skill set in the area of player movements handle media questions on the subject. Otherwise, what's the point of having Moody?

More nonsense from you Syd. Steve Parish is the boss and controls the money - not Iain Moody so is the main man. Also, he is much better with dealing with the media than Moody whose job is not speaking to the media. I want our chairman to speak to the fans via the media - otherwise how will we know what is going on!

Essentially we're a small business and not a multi-national which is what the 6 clubs syd has used as examples where the DoF explains transfer strategies to the media. As we're small, Parish can overlook almost everything. As he's doing that, there's no need for trouble-shooting or wondering how the f#ck we got into a mess in 1/2/3 years time.

We do need additions though. SP knows it, hence we're trying, but they won't be 'big.'

COYP

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Petereagle Brockley 19 Jan 14 5.55pm
Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? . £16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ? Transfer business was a total and utter shambles. This is a minority view I know but some of the sixteen brought in have ( in my view) proved decent signings, including Chamakh, Guedioura, Puncheon, Mariapa, Bannan, and yes, even Gayle! Possibly Hunt as well, when he returns from his injury. Mind you, at least half have or will disappear without trace
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Brockley 19 Jan 14 5.55pm

Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough?
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£16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ?
Transfer business was a total and utter shambles.

This is a minority view I know but some of the sixteen brought in have ( in my view) proved decent signings, including Chamakh, Guedioura, Puncheon, Mariapa, Bannan, and yes, even Gayle! Possibly Hunt as well, when he returns from his injury. Mind you, at least half have or will disappear without trace

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Petereagle Brockley 19 Jan 14 5.58pm
Quote nosy at 19 Jan 2014 5.26pm I,m still a Parish fan,some of these posters don,t appreciate what we,ve got.as soon as Murry is back the same bunch will be saying ;sell him ,no good; Yes, me too, I think he's been great and it's not a bad idea to remind selling clubs and agents that Palace is handling its budget with great care.
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Petereagle

Brockley 19 Jan 14 5.58pm

Quote nosy at 19 Jan 2014 5.26pm

I,m still a Parish fan,some of these posters don,t appreciate what we,ve got.as soon as Murry is back the same bunch will be saying ;sell him ,no good;

Yes, me too, I think he's been great and it's not a bad idea to remind selling clubs and agents that Palace is handling its budget with great care.

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Midlands Eagle 19 Jan 14 5.59pm
Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm Steve Parish is the boss and controls the money - not Iain Moody so is the main man. Also, he is much better with dealing with the media than Moody whose job is not speaking to the media. I want our chairman to speak to the fans via the media - otherwise how will we know what is going on! I disagree as the point that both syd and I have made at various times is that Steve Parish is not good at dealing with the media. What little has come out from Iain Moody is positive yet almost everything that Steve Parish says is negative and his favourite words seem to be can't and won't
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Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm

Steve Parish is the boss and controls the money - not Iain Moody so is the main man. Also, he is much better with dealing with the media than Moody whose job is not speaking to the media. I want our chairman to speak to the fans via the media - otherwise how will we know what is going on!

I disagree as the point that both syd and I have made at various times is that Steve Parish is not good at dealing with the media.

What little has come out from Iain Moody is positive yet almost everything that Steve Parish says is negative and his favourite words seem to be can't and won't

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Midlands Eagle 19 Jan 14 6.02pm
Quote Petereagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.55pm Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? . £16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ? Transfer business was a total and utter shambles. This is a minority view I know but some of the sixteen brought in have ( in my view) proved decent signings, including Chamakh, Guedioura, Puncheon, Mariapa, Bannan, and yes, even Gayle! Possibly Hunt as well, when he returns from his injury. Mind you, at least half have or will disappear without trace I don't think that anyone disputes the fact that some of the players bought in the summer have performed well. I'm not sure that everyone will agree with your list but Chamakh that every newspaper derided as a complete waste of space has been quite a revelation and one wonders what he could have done this season if he had received better service
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Midlands Eagle

19 Jan 14 6.02pm

Quote Petereagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.55pm

Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough?
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£16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ?
Transfer business was a total and utter shambles.

I don't think that anyone disputes the fact that some of the players bought in the summer have performed well. I'm not sure that everyone will agree with your list but Chamakh that every newspaper derided as a complete waste of space has been quite a revelation and one wonders what he could have done this season if he had received better service

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sydtheeagle England 19 Jan 14 6.04pm
Quote Ian J at 19 Jan 2014 5.59pm Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm Steve Parish is the boss and controls the money - not Iain Moody so is the main man. Also, he is much better with dealing with the media than Moody whose job is not speaking to the media. I want our chairman to speak to the fans via the media - otherwise how will we know what is going on! I disagree as the point that both syd and I have made at various times is that Steve Parish is not good at dealing with the media. What little has come out from Iain Moody is positive yet almost everything that Steve Parish says is negative and his favourite words seem to be can't and won't For someone who comes from a media/marketing/PR/agency-type background, Steve Parrish is actually shockingly poor at dealing with the media. You only have to look at the clumsy way he plays his hand in public (for instance, "I'll do what I want" ) to grasp that, regardless of what I personally think of him. A common problem in successful small businessmen is that they're often not half as sharp as they think, once they're removed from the business in which they gained their success. If Parrish didn't have three other partners and owned Palace on his own, I would be seriously worried. Edited by sydtheeagle (19 Jan 2014 6.05pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 19 Jan 14 6.04pm

Quote Ian J at 19 Jan 2014 5.59pm

Quote Penge Eagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.07pm

I disagree as the point that both syd and I have made at various times is that Steve Parish is not good at dealing with the media.

What little has come out from Iain Moody is positive yet almost everything that Steve Parish says is negative and his favourite words seem to be can't and won't

For someone who comes from a media/marketing/PR/agency-type background, Steve Parrish is actually shockingly poor at dealing with the media. You only have to look at the clumsy way he plays his hand in public (for instance, "I'll do what I want" ) to grasp that, regardless of what I personally think of him. A common problem in successful small businessmen is that they're often not half as sharp as they think, once they're removed from the business in which they gained their success. If Parrish didn't have three other partners and owned Palace on his own, I would be seriously worried.

Edited by sydtheeagle (19 Jan 2014 6.05pm)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Mapletree Croydon 19 Jan 14 6.16pm
Quote Ian J at 19 Jan 2014 6.02pm Quote Petereagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.55pm Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? . £16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ? Transfer business was a total and utter shambles. This is a minority view I know but some of the sixteen brought in have ( in my view) proved decent signings, including Chamakh, Guedioura, Puncheon, Mariapa, Bannan, and yes, even Gayle! Possibly Hunt as well, when he returns from his injury. Mind you, at least half have or will disappear without trace I don't think that anyone disputes the fact that some of the players bought in the summer have performed well. I'm not sure that everyone will agree with your list but Chamakh that every newspaper derided as a complete waste of space has been quite a revelation and one wonders what he could have done this season if he had received better service Well, quite a few people on this thread said that the summer signings were a f*ck up. Now, I don't dispute that Marange was one, and perhaps Alexander and Grandin who were frees. But that's still a pretty decent average isn't it? Personally I would say almost inspired, a fantastic return on £16.5m if you compare with other Prem clubs. When will the knocking stop, we are out of the relegation zone FFS, enjoy.
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Mapletree

Croydon 19 Jan 14 6.16pm

Quote Ian J at 19 Jan 2014 6.02pm

Quote Petereagle at 19 Jan 2014 5.55pm

Quote Willo at 19 Jan 2014 12.05pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough?
.

£16.5 Million on players and what have we got in return ?
Transfer business was a total and utter shambles.

Well, quite a few people on this thread said that the summer signings were a f*ck up.

Now, I don't dispute that Marange was one, and perhaps Alexander and Grandin who were frees. But that's still a pretty decent average isn't it? Personally I would say almost inspired, a fantastic return on £16.5m if you compare with other Prem clubs. When will the knocking stop, we are out of the relegation zone FFS, enjoy.

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thommo1 Peckham 19 Jan 14 6.17pm
Syd, can you make us a list on here as to why you dont like Steve.. So we can try to understand where your coming from then tell us how you would have conducted yourself and the business of running a professional football club if you were him.. so we will all be clear on how it should be done so it can then be circulated around all the clubs as a blueprint for success. DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."
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thommo1

Peckham 19 Jan 14 6.17pm

Syd, can you make us a list on here as to why you dont like Steve.. So we can try to understand where your coming from then tell us how you would have conducted yourself and the business of running a professional football club if you were him.. so we will all be clear on how it should be done so it can then be circulated around all the clubs as a blueprint for success.

DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."

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sydtheeagle England 19 Jan 14 6.28pm
I'd say this: I grew up when the football people did the talking (and trust me, Bert Head didn't do a lot of that.) So when I want to listen to what's happening at my football club I want to hear the football people update me. I don't pay money to watch the chairman at work every week. To me, some figures in a club should be seen and not heard. The first chairman to really break that rule and become a largely public figure was Ron Noades and (while I did broadly like Ron) I don't think that was a change for the better. Sadly, today egotists buy football clubs and think that because they've arrived in a bit of money, they're entitled to centre stage. There was a time when it was enough for owners to get their glory behind the closed doors of the boardroom and in the local business community. Personally, I like John Henry, Liverpool's owner (to give one example) because he's not forever trying to hog the limelight. He lets his manager get on with being the voice and face of the club. Yes, Palace are a small business and Liverpool are a big one but I still want to hear TP and not a grown-up wide boy with a bad haircut who has nothing to do with the football itself. Well, you did ask. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 19 Jan 14 6.28pm

I'd say this: I grew up when the football people did the talking (and trust me, Bert Head didn't do a lot of that.) So when I want to listen to what's happening at my football club I want to hear the football people update me. I don't pay money to watch the chairman at work every week.

To me, some figures in a club should be seen and not heard. The first chairman to really break that rule and become a largely public figure was Ron Noades and (while I did broadly like Ron) I don't think that was a change for the better.

Sadly, today egotists buy football clubs and think that because they've arrived in a bit of money, they're entitled to centre stage. There was a time when it was enough for owners to get their glory behind the closed doors of the boardroom and in the local business community.

Personally, I like John Henry, Liverpool's owner (to give one example) because he's not forever trying to hog the limelight. He lets his manager get on with being the voice and face of the club. Yes, Palace are a small business and Liverpool are a big one but I still want to hear TP and not a grown-up wide boy with a bad haircut who has nothing to do with the football itself.

Well, you did ask.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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thommo1 Peckham 19 Jan 14 6.37pm
With your apparent 'armchair politician' persona and YOUR need to air your views i doubt strongly that you would be the 'quiet type' of chairmen behind the scenes. I think TBH syd and you can admit it on here its ok we are all friends here I think you see yourself in Steve and thats whats hurting you. DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."
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Peckham 19 Jan 14 6.37pm

With your apparent 'armchair politician' persona and YOUR need to air your views i doubt strongly that you would be the 'quiet type' of chairmen behind the scenes. I think TBH syd and you can admit it on here its ok we are all friends here I think you see yourself in Steve and thats whats hurting you.

DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."

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sydtheeagle England 19 Jan 14 6.47pm
Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 6.37pm With your apparent 'armchair politician' persona and YOUR need to air your views i doubt strongly that you would be the 'quiet type' of chairmen behind the scenes. I think TBH syd and you can admit it on here its ok we are all friends here I think you see yourself in Steve and thats whats hurting you. I don't think the people who work for me would say that, (but I'll put you in touch with one or two of them if you want to ask them what I'm like as a boss). I can give you a shopping list of my faults and failures -- I really can. I'm not short of either. But I'm not at all like Steve. At least I don't think so. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 19 Jan 14 6.47pm

Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 6.37pm

I don't think the people who work for me would say that, (but I'll put you in touch with one or two of them if you want to ask them what I'm like as a boss). I can give you a shopping list of my faults and failures -- I really can. I'm not short of either. But I'm not at all like Steve. At least I don't think so.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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