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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 17 Jun 13 9.51am
Quote Cucking Funt at 16 Jun 2013 9.52pm Quote alaneagle1 at 16 Jun 2013 9.45pm Quote Cucking Funt at 16 Jun 2013 9.36pm But why Andrews? Edited by Cucking Funt (16 Jun 2013 9.36pm) Well quite obvious. When Dowie came to Palace he motivated an under performing squad and helped get them promoted. When it come to purchasing talent to improve that team he failed. Failed at Charlton and is now no longer managing. But he did purchase talent, with the glaring exception of Andrews. That's the point of this thread, really, namely, why sign him? He relied upon his brother's guidance - which was valid in a number of the instances already pointed out. Andrews was not a good player but he always worked hard and presumably Dowie felt he needed someone he could rely on to simply put a shift in on the wing - win balls in the final third and put pressure on the defence just by harrying them. But honestly it does still seem difficult to reconcile. There were a number of bad buys, but there were quite a few good ones and he didn't seem to fit in any way. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Cockfosters, London 17 Jun 13 9.51am

Quote Cucking Funt at 16 Jun 2013 9.52pm

Quote alaneagle1 at 16 Jun 2013 9.45pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 16 Jun 2013 9.36pm

But why Andrews?

Edited by Cucking Funt (16 Jun 2013 9.36pm)

Well quite obvious.
When Dowie came to Palace he motivated an under performing squad and helped get them promoted.
When it come to purchasing talent to improve that team he failed.
Failed at Charlton and is now no longer managing.

But he did purchase talent, with the glaring exception of Andrews. That's the point of this thread, really, namely, why sign him?

He relied upon his brother's guidance - which was valid in a number of the instances already pointed out.

Andrews was not a good player but he always worked hard and presumably Dowie felt he needed someone he could rely on to simply put a shift in on the wing - win balls in the final third and put pressure on the defence just by harrying them.

But honestly it does still seem difficult to reconcile. There were a number of bad buys, but there were quite a few good ones and he didn't seem to fit in any way.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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Hudsoneagle 17 Jun 13 10.05am
I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings?
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17 Jun 13 10.05am

I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings?

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chris123 hove actually 17 Jun 13 10.10am
Quote Hudsoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.05am I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings? Emerson Boyce.
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Quote Hudsoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.05am

I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings?

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 17 Jun 13 10.17am
Quote Hudsoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.05am I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings? boyce hall jobi leigertwood (who i rated extrememly highly) Edited by braunstoneagle (17 Jun 2013 10.18am) ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Quote Hudsoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.05am

I'm unsure but did we make a profit on any of his signings?

boyce
hall
jobi
leigertwood (who i rated extrememly highly)

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Jun 13 10.29am
Only Boyce Johnson and, eventually, Routledge proved themselves to be of half decent Premiership quality. The rest were either relegation fodder or well overrated or just a hopeful shot in the dark. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Only Boyce Johnson and, eventually, Routledge proved themselves to be of half decent Premiership quality. The rest were either relegation fodder or well overrated or just a hopeful shot in the dark.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 13 10.36am
Quote braunstoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.17am hall leigertwood (who i rated extrememly highly) I believe that we signed "One size" for £1.5 mill and Paul Jewell bought him for Wigan for £3 Mill. Regards 'Leigertwood' I believe we signed him for £150,000 and Neil Warnock took him to Sheff Utd for £600,000. 'McAnuff' - I believe we signed him for £600,000 and Aidy Boothroyd took him to Watford for £1.75 mill rising to £2 Mill. 'Boyce' - Signed on a 'Free' and I believe Paul Jewell signed him for £1 Mill + a further £200,000 for appearances. Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2013 10.43am)
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Quote braunstoneagle at 17 Jun 2013 10.17am

hall

leigertwood (who i rated extrememly highly)

I believe that we signed "One size" for £1.5 mill and Paul Jewell bought him for Wigan for £3 Mill.

Regards 'Leigertwood' I believe we signed him for £150,000 and Neil Warnock took him to Sheff Utd for £600,000.

'McAnuff' - I believe we signed him for £600,000 and Aidy Boothroyd took him to Watford for £1.75 mill rising to £2 Mill.

'Boyce' - Signed on a 'Free' and I believe Paul Jewell signed him for £1 Mill + a further £200,000 for appearances.

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Hudsoneagle 17 Jun 13 11.05am
Well that's quite a good record based on profits. Charlton fans would argue with that but it would suggest he didn't do too badly.
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Well that's quite a good record based on profits. Charlton fans would argue with that but it would suggest he didn't do too badly.

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leejamison Lisburn 17 Jun 13 11.26am
Wayne Andrews was an athlete, not a footballer! Trier, with 6 left feet and 4 toes missing, truely shocking... quite funny looking back actually
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Wayne Andrews was an athlete, not a footballer!

Trier, with 6 left feet and 4 toes missing, truely shocking... quite funny looking back actually

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 17 Jun 13 12.04pm
Quote premier fan at 17 Jun 2013 9.24am Quote alaneagle1 at 16 Jun 2013 8.54pm I think if Dowie had not signed anybody that season we would have stayed up. The Team that went up were never really given a chance. By the end of the season the team that failed at Charlton was similar to the promoted team. I hope this time we play the lads that took us up. Agree Alan 100% was listening to shipperly the other day who was our captain and then promptly dropped the next season. I'd like to see the nucleus of this seasons team with an obvious replacement for Zaha (Ince would be nice) and two new forwards which is the main department that needs adding too. Edited by premier fan (17 Jun 2013 9.25am) Good. Thinking back i do not think Shipps played at all.? If he did it must have only been the odd game. I remember going to Blackburn midweek. We were 1-0 down and with 20 minutes to go, Dowie brought on Popovic up front instead of Shipps. Mind you we were still very unlucky to go down. Pompey did not help on that final Day at West Brom. Still they have got there come uppance since. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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Quote premier fan at 17 Jun 2013 9.24am

Quote alaneagle1 at 16 Jun 2013 8.54pm

I think if Dowie had not signed anybody that season we would have stayed up.
The Team that went up were never really given a chance.
By the end of the season the team that failed at Charlton was similar to the promoted team.

I hope this time we play the lads that took us up.

Agree Alan 100% was listening to shipperly the other day who was our captain and then promptly dropped the next season. I'd like to see the nucleus of this seasons team with an obvious replacement for Zaha (Ince would be nice) and two new forwards which is the main department that needs adding too.

Edited by premier fan (17 Jun 2013 9.25am)

Good.
Thinking back i do not think Shipps played at all.?
If he did it must have only been the odd game.
I remember going to Blackburn midweek.
We were 1-0 down and with 20 minutes to go, Dowie brought on Popovic up front instead of Shipps.
Mind you we were still very unlucky to go down.
Pompey did not help on that final Day at West Brom.
Still they have got there come uppance since.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Jun 13 12.47pm
Probably the only real error Dowie made consistantly during that season was not playing Freedman more. But we essentially were relegated on the basis of a phenominally bad piece of refereeing at Norwich in which the Referee and linos must have been the only people present not to have seen the most blatent handball on the line (Red card, penalty in a game we came back to draw 3-3). That single game had some of the most comical refereeing of all time. Obviously Dowie was planning for a career move closer to home (in Charlton) by signing a classic clown for the season. You couldn't fault the effort of Wayne Andrews, but he wasn't even good enough for league 1 let alone the top flight. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Probably the only real error Dowie made consistantly during that season was not playing Freedman more. But we essentially were relegated on the basis of a phenominally bad piece of refereeing at Norwich in which the Referee and linos must have been the only people present not to have seen the most blatent handball on the line (Red card, penalty in a game we came back to draw 3-3).

That single game had some of the most comical refereeing of all time.

Obviously Dowie was planning for a career move closer to home (in Charlton) by signing a classic clown for the season.

You couldn't fault the effort of Wayne Andrews, but he wasn't even good enough for league 1 let alone the top flight.

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The White Horse 17 Jun 13 1.04pm
At the risk of saying something completely ridiculous, I'd say that two popular objections to Palace players are that they are either: A) Not 100% committed B) Too slow I think that for all of his faults, Andrews did not fail on either of these criteria. He failed in pretty much every other area though. Particularly anything that involved making contact with the football. "The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee
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At the risk of saying something completely ridiculous, I'd say that two popular objections to Palace players are that they are either:

A) Not 100% committed
B) Too slow

I think that for all of his faults, Andrews did not fail on either of these criteria. He failed in pretty much every other area though. Particularly anything that involved making contact with the football.

"The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 17 Jun 13 1.22pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Jun 2013 12.47pm Probably the only real error Dowie made consistantly during that season was not playing Freedman more. But we essentially were relegated on the basis of a phenominally bad piece of refereeing at Norwich in which the Referee and linos must have been the only people present not to have seen the most blatent handball on the line (Red card, penalty in a game we came back to draw 3-3). That single game had some of the most comical refereeing of all time. Obviously Dowie was planning for a career move closer to home (in Charlton) by signing a classic clown for the season. You couldn't fault the effort of Wayne Andrews, but he wasn't even good enough for league 1 let alone the top flight. Jamie in that game we got a Penalty. Andrew (AJ) told me that he 'dived'. He also said it was the only time in his career that he had. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 17 Jun 13 1.22pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Jun 2013 12.47pm

That single game had some of the most comical refereeing of all time.

Obviously Dowie was planning for a career move closer to home (in Charlton) by signing a classic clown for the season.

You couldn't fault the effort of Wayne Andrews, but he wasn't even good enough for league 1 let alone the top flight.

Jamie in that game we got a Penalty.
Andrew (AJ) told me that he 'dived'.
He also said it was the only time in his career that he had.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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