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Mongo Like Clunge Bumfuck City, Texas 22 Feb 13 11.27pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Feb 2013 9.27pm
You appear to believe that there isn't much validity to the charges yet seem dead set against Assange answering them. As I've said, if they are so weak what is there to fear. Where is the past evidence that the Swedish legal system isn't robust and fair? Again, you fail to answer the point that if the charges are made up why would a framing organisation choose such a hard crime to convict on?
a. Have to extradite him from the UK to Sweden for questioning, whether the charges are trumped up or not; I don't think I can put my point across in any more of a straightforward and clear way than that. I don't care whether you agree with me or not, just that you actually understand the point I have made, which you have consistently failed to do thus far. If you really want him gone, focus your bile on the UK government wanting to take him into custody if he leaves the Ecuadorian Embassy. Let him go to Ecuador and let Sweden or the US extradite him from there.
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Smuff81 22 Feb 13 11.36pm | |
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the US breaks international law every day
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ChuFukka 22 Feb 13 11.57pm | |
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Quote Smuff81 at 22 Feb 2013 11.36pm
the US breaks international law every day
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Smuff81 22 Feb 13 11.59pm | |
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it really doesnt take many google searces to prove this regardless of the web site i chose to use
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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 23 Feb 13 12.00am | |
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It would cost us a damn sight less if we just let him go. It'll have been done before. The timing reminded me of the DSK affair at the IMF, in the run up there were a number of sneering articles in various newspapers. It was all just a bit too fishy for my liking, especially as he was starting to take on banks more effectively. Assange has been his own worst enemy at times, but I'm more suspicious of US motives. I think he probably used publicity as a way to avoid being taken out quietly. Incidentally, has anyone noticed the recent flurry of public secret service f'ck ups? The bloke killed in his bath, the Prisoner X in Israel, the fake passport stuff. None of this strikes me as particularly remarkable, other than that it's being made public...
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Smuff81 23 Feb 13 12.07am | |
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and to be fair using warcrimes.com is probley a lot more factual than a state run paper like the Guardian, please show me some proof of whats written there not being true??
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Schuloff Hackney 23 Feb 13 11.41am | |
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Quote Cucking Funt at 22 Feb 2013 6.10pm
The Swedish extradition is a fit up from beginning to end. There's no way he'll ever get a fair trial.
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Stirlingsays 23 Feb 13 11.44am | |
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Quote Smuff81 at 23 Feb 2013 12.07am
and to be fair using warcrimes.com is probley a lot more factual than a state run paper like the Guardian, please show me some proof of whats written there not being true??
If you make an accusation it's for you to prove it. Not for the accused to prove it isn't true. I briefly went on that site....It appeared to be going on about US officials being war criminals due to Bush's wars. I repeat the actual facts. If the US have broken international war, point me towards the trail of said officials in the Haig. Emotive language, that's all that's offered.
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Stirlingsays 23 Feb 13 12.13pm | |
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Quote Mongo Like Clunge at 22 Feb 2013 11.27pm
a. Have to extradite him from the UK to Sweden for questioning, whether the charges are trumped up or not; I don't think I can put my point across in any more of a straightforward and clear way than that. I don't care whether you agree with me or not, just that you actually understand the point I have made, which you have consistently failed to do thus far. If you really want him gone, focus your bile on the UK government wanting to take him into custody if he leaves the Ecuadorian Embassy. Let him go to Ecuador and let Sweden or the US extradite him from there.
I said that Assange can't expect the law to work differently for him as it would for anyone else. His defenders, seem to suggest that he cannot be tried for possible crimes because they are suspicious of the charge......Apparently, you don't see the logical flaw in that. It is simply ludicrous to suggest that Assange can avoid answering a charge in a European court. Once again you have failed to address the weaknesses in your arguments. The reality that the nature of the charge is weak, not a likely means of conviction meaning it's a poor instrument for framing. The reality that you appear to have decided that suspicion upon the nature of guilt is enough to suggest that the law shouldn't be followed in respect to Assange....One of the cake and eat it brigade. Indeed you suggest that Britain break EU law by not arresting him.....For a man, who picks and chooses which laws he likes to follow. Again, a cake and eat it merchant. But apparently the problem is that I can't comprehend your argument. I have addressed your arguments and show their flaws.
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Kermit8 Hevon 23 Feb 13 12.16pm | |
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Breathe in..............read Mr S
The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal. Mr Annan said that the invasion was not sanctioned by the UN security council or in accordance with the UN's founding charter. In an interview with the BBC World Service broadcast, he was asked outright if the war was illegal. He replied: "Yes" .........breathe out
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Stirlingsays 23 Feb 13 12.35pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Feb 2013 12.16pm
Breathe in..............read Mr S
The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal. Mr Annan said that the invasion was not sanctioned by the UN security council or in accordance with the UN's founding charter. In an interview with the BBC World Service broadcast, he was asked outright if the war was illegal. He replied: "Yes" .........breathe out Again, I've explained this....This is just waffle. If it is illegal where are the convictions? These wars have gone on for over a decade. Every attempt to bring a prosecution of these apparently guilty officials has been thrown out of court. Annan, is not the decider upon the legality of the war. He was giving a view not using a mandate. I've already stated what happened in respect to UN resolutions, so thanks for cut and pasting what amounts to the same stuff. I'll repeat the reality again. The passed security council resolution was vague enough to permit 'consequences' in respect to Iraq. I've already stated it wasn't passed to allow ware but the fact remains that no successful prosecution can be made due to the wording. The facts remain. There has been no successful convictions on 'war crimes' because actually the wars weren't illegal. The Wars weren't directly authorized but they weren't ruled out either. The UN passed the resolution that legally allowed it to happen. That's why Blair, Bush and all the rest of them walk freely.....Because all you lot are doing is waffling emotional nonsense. In your view the war is illegal....In reality it wasn't.
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Kermit8 Hevon 23 Feb 13 12.54pm | |
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Rendition, drone strikes, massacres, torture, executions, etc. In the same way Israel doesn't give a fvck and gets away with doing illegal things so does the US. Too powerful you see. Who can take them on? Not Russia nor China - they are busy not following the rules of international law too. Yhe Hague? I wish they would - I'd fvcking love to see Kissinger on trial before he kicks the bucket. Too powerful alas still.
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