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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 21 1.36am | |
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For everyone listening to the hyperbole about those gatecrashers at the Capitol being called terrorists and 'insurrectionists' by Democrats. Corporations punishing them, banning them for whatever they can, even if they had just attended the rally. Let's not forget tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands attended....yet they all appear to be labelled the same. Well, lets look at how the Democrats think about actual terrorists....but ones they like. Back in the eighties...1983 to be exact the Capitol building was bombed by group called the 'resistance conspiracy' which was a far left terrorist group that contained a certain individual called Susan Rosenberg. Over the course of 83/84 apart from the capitol building her group also bombed an FBI office, the Israel Aircraft Industries building, and the South African consulate in New York. They bombed Washington's Fort McNair and Navy Yard (which they hit twice.) The capitol building bomb caused a $250,000 worth of damage, which was equivalent to $640,000 in 2019. When she was arrested she had a large cache of explosives and firearms. On March 1985 she was given a 58-year-sentence. After 16 years her sentence was commuted to time served by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, which was his final day in office. Today, Rosenberg sits as the vice-chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents. This group provides the legal and administrative framework for BLM. She also travels to universities and gives speeches about her life and politics. This women was an actual terrorist who bombed the building they are screaming about now. And the Democrats love her.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 15 Jan 21 9.51am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For everyone listening to the hyperbole about those gatecrashers at the Capitol being called terrorists and 'insurrectionists' by Democrats. Corporations punishing them, banning them for whatever they can, even if they had just attended the rally. Let's not forget tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands attended....yet they all appear to be labelled the same. Well, lets look at how the Democrats think about actual terrorists....but ones they like. Back in the eighties...1983 to be exact the Capitol building was bombed by group called the 'resistance conspiracy' which was a far left terrorist group that contained a certain individual called Susan Rosenberg. Over the course of 83/84 apart from the capitol building her group also bombed an FBI office, the Israel Aircraft Industries building, and the South African consulate in New York. They bombed Washington's Fort McNair and Navy Yard (which they hit twice.) The capitol building bomb caused a 0,000 worth of damage, which was equivalent to 0,000 in 2019. When she was arrested she had a large cache of explosives and firearms. On March 1985 she was given a 58-year-sentence. After 16 years her sentence was commuted to time served by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, which was his final day in office. Today, Rosenberg sits as the vice-chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents. This group provides the legal and administrative framework for BLM. She also travels to universities and gives speeches about her life and politics. This women was an actual terrorist who bombed the building they are screaming about now. And the Democrats love her. Pretty interesting. Does seem like pardons etc. are just dished out like confetti regardless of crime and usually for an advantage... but interested to know what the advantage was for Clinton if he was leaving office? Probably some sort of campaign. I mean, if she was genuinely rehabilitated, fine, but otherwise it's a bit dodgy. I wonder if they'd actually gone through with some of their alleged thoughts about assassinations etc. she'd have been released. Looking into that time period and before that what's happening now is childsplay really. Bombs all over the shop. I found this interesting from William Rosenau 'Systemic terrorism has been a deep, deep part of our history. After the Civil War, it's not just the Ku Klux Klan, but outright insurgency against Republicans in Southern states by white militias and white supremacists. One of the things I'm trying to bring forth in the book is this notion, to quote [Black nationalist leader H. Rap Brown], "Violence is as American as cherry pie." Terrorism is not an exception, a one-off, a random thing. It is deeply ingrained in our politics and society and history.'
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jan 21 11.19am | |
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Are you real? I just wondered if someone was writing your character?
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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 21 11.55am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Pretty interesting. Does seem like pardons etc. are just dished out like confetti regardless of crime and usually for an advantage... but interested to know what the advantage was for Clinton if he was leaving office? Probably some sort of campaign. I mean, if she was genuinely rehabilitated, fine, but otherwise it's a bit dodgy. I wonder if they'd actually gone through with some of their alleged thoughts about assassinations etc. she'd have been released. Looking into that time period and before that what's happening now is childsplay really. Bombs all over the shop. I found this interesting from William Rosenau 'Systemic terrorism has been a deep, deep part of our history. After the Civil War, it's not just the Ku Klux Klan, but outright insurgency against Republicans in Southern states by white militias and white supremacists. One of the things I'm trying to bring forth in the book is this notion, to quote [Black nationalist leader H. Rap Brown], "Violence is as American as cherry pie." Terrorism is not an exception, a one-off, a random thing. It is deeply ingrained in our politics and society and history.' I think the most controversial pardons are perhaps reserved for the last day.....I still hold out some hope for Assange. Rosenberg's group was very much a military expression of....what was back then far left ideology but today is probably considered accepted normalcy on the left. Clinton saw himself as a 'black' president and did much then that today's progressives would agree with like making it law that banks provide mortgages to insolvent communities....which is an unspoken part of the 2008 crash. But I won't harp over old 2008 ground. To reference the quote from Brown, 'violence is as American as cherry pie', I pretty much agree. America was born in violence as it was a north American country taken over by initially mostly British Europeans. It represents the practical reality of what happens when different ethnicities are pushed up against each other. When resources are plenty conflict is avoided and even cordial, however once communities are pressured flight and confrontation are inevitable. In modern times whites have been indoctrinated to be the least ethnocentric community out there, however that's only been possible in an environment of plenty. The future looks more like the traditional model to me.....and while from my perspective the damage has long since been done at least what is to come carries a mixed blessing rather than purely a dire one. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2021 11.56am)
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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 21 1.13pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
What people make good points, you just latch onto something else they haven't even commented on. I was addressing making a platform so robust that despite efforts to take it offline, it remains online. That is what PirateBay represents. Yes, it's been taken offline at times, but decades on, for anyone with basic technical competency it is still available to visit. As I said, I'm not even for what happened to Parler, nor do I have any desire to silence anyones ability to publicly post as long as they have a basic appreciation for the law, so you're picking an argument with the wrong person.
Fair enough. However, I regard Kolmisoppi's criticisms to be harsh and the focus misdirected....or at least it was deliberately reported that way. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2021 1.16pm)
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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 21 1.17pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
In any case I wasn't really looking to get drawn in. I was making a couple of specific points pertinent to these discussions and happenings, and had covered other aspects previously. I'll leave others to it as I appear to have stumbled into bad mood city . I'll pop back on the 20th! Talk about from the frying pan into the fire.
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tonymikejoe UK 15 Jan 21 1.37pm | |
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Trumpy is now rumoured to be edited out of one of the Home Alone films. Reminds me of something people who lived in Communist countries would say. "The future is set, but the past is forever changing."
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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jan 21 1.42pm | |
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Originally posted by tonymikejoe
Trumpy is now rumoured to be edited out of one of the Home Alone films. Reminds me of something people who lived in Communist countries would say. "The future is set, but the past is forever changing." Or 1984
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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jan 21 1.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think the most controversial pardons are perhaps reserved for the last day.....I still hold out some hope for Assange. Rosenberg's group was very much a military expression of....what was back then far left ideology but today is probably considered accepted normalcy on the left. Clinton saw himself as a 'black' president and did much then that today's progressives would agree with like making it law that banks provide mortgages to insolvent communities....which is an unspoken part of the 2008 crash. But I won't harp over old 2008 ground. To reference the quote from Brown, 'violence is as American as cherry pie', I pretty much agree. America was born in violence as it was a north American country taken over by initially mostly British Europeans. It represents the practical reality of what happens when different ethnicities are pushed up against each other. When resources are plenty conflict is avoided and even cordial, however once communities are pressured flight and confrontation are inevitable. In modern times whites have been indoctrinated to be the least ethnocentric community out there, however that's only been possible in an environment of plenty. The future looks more like the traditional model to me.....and while from my perspective the damage has long since been done at least what is to come carries a mixed blessing rather than purely a dire one. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2021 11.56am) Yeah funny how when the crash happened the politicians forgot about that. I mean who would have guess forcing banks to give loans and mortgages to poor people would result in loan defaults.
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Eaglecoops CR3 15 Jan 21 1.46pm | |
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Originally posted by tonymikejoe
Trumpy is now rumoured to be edited out of one of the Home Alone films. Reminds me of something people who lived in Communist countries would say. "The future is set, but the past is forever changing." Lord knows what is going to happen to Trumpton. I loved that as a kid.
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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 21 1.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yeah funny how when the crash happened the politicians forgot about that. I mean who would have guess forcing banks to give loans and mortgages to poor people would result in loan defaults. Yep, short term vote whoring that carried huge long term implications for society as a whole. It's one of democracy's fundamental problems. That's not saying that housing for poor communities isn't an important focus for government to solve....the poor are society too. It's just that legally forcing bad loans onto institutions is about as irresponsible as it gets.
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cryrst The garden of England 15 Jan 21 2.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yeah funny how when the crash happened the politicians forgot about that. I mean who would have guess forcing banks to give loans and mortgages to poor people would result in loan defaults. The big short
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