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BlueJay UK 20 May 20 11.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon. You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast. Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else. I see where you're coming from. There is bound to be a readjustment period since going from lockdown one minute to semi busy environments the next is night and day. It's certainly no picnic for the elderly and vulnerable either to realise that they are more at risk and need to proceed differently. That's the fault of this dreaded virus though rather than society.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 May 20 11.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group. The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves. I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon. You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast. Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else. The vulnerable isolate whether the rest of us are out or not. This sort of thing crops up a lot. I almost start to think that some want everyone to go through the same as those suffering the worst aspects of this. It isn’t just about ££££. People checking into hospitals with heart attack symptoms is down by a half, new cancer cases are down, stroke cases are down. That’s just the immediate medical effect. The worst could come in the next few years, and probably will. May e sainsburys warlingham is much more civilised. I did think so during the panic buying and stuff before the queuing. The relatively small Tesco in Caterham had it sussed with their one way aisles. Their staff were very observant of social distancing. I was surprised and impressed.
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cryrst The garden of England 20 May 20 11.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group. The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves. I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon. You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast. Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else. I'm as fearful as the next man (well some) but right at the start there was a mention that 5 mins or so in someone's company at a 2m distance or just walking past shouldn't cause an issue. A hug or a frenchie might
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BlueJay UK 21 May 20 12.09am | |
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Also Wis, if you wear a face mask when out and about that likely conveys some protection and peace of mind. Maybe you already do.
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Stirlingsays 21 May 20 4.33am | |
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Once the virus has properly entered the population there is little evidence that economic lockdown worked as opposed to sensible guidelines. But it has certainly fecked the economy.
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Spiderman Horsham 21 May 20 5.16am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Could have sworn she was brown bread. Now I realise that was Mary Millington. Met her once in Norbury Didn’t put you down as someone who frequented such shops
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Spiderman Horsham 21 May 20 5.28am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group. The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves. I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon. You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast. Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else. Regarding your comment about shoppers passing you in the supermarket, I understand where you are coming from but the aisles are quite wide. I witnessed a discussion only last week in Tesco (ours is well organised with a one way system throughout), an elderly lady had stopped to look at something on o shelf, chap walks passed her, not close, she shouted that he should not be passing her, he replied that he could not be expected to wait behind her all round the shop, which is true, a conundrum but a bit of common sense needed.
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Midlands Eagle 21 May 20 5.58am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Where I come from being a grass is frowned upon. Where's that. Prison?
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Stirlingsays 21 May 20 6.30am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Where's that. Prison? Post to your lefty mates. That way you can have a word hug.
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Badger11 Beckenham 21 May 20 7.50am | |
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Papers are reported that London and the SE reported zero new infections in the last 24 hours. Assuming this is true it suggests that as London was the first into the crisis we are now hopefully leaving it with other parts of the country several weeks behind us. The government should now be considering a regional strategy focusing on the current hotspots it also means we need this contact tracing especially in the areas which have low numbers to ensure they don't spike again.
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Badger11 Beckenham 21 May 20 8.03am | |
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Now remember politicians are honest, hard working and must be trusted to use their own common-sense. We should allow them to use their own discretion and get on with the job. Take this Lid Dem Peer for example
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Mapletree Croydon 21 May 20 8.35am | |
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I refer you to your own posts re grooming gangs Everyone should take their own moral responsibility
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