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Brentmiester_General  Front line in the battle against t... 10 Jul 17 8.35am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
In other news, Labour promise to bring about world peace and cure all disease. At least Corbyn wants peace.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jul 17 11.51am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
At least Corbyn wants peace. Yes, well no 'just passing through' politician is ever going to manage that I'm afraid. Corbyn relies on the idealistic and gullible for votes
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| matt_himself Matataland 17 Jul 17 4.48pm |
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Labour u-turn on Tuition Fees: Wiping out tuition fee debt is now an 'ambition', as opposed to policy pre-election. Straight talking, honest politics, people!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Jul 17 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Labour u-turn on Tuition Fees: Wiping out tuition fee debt is now an 'ambition', as opposed to policy pre-election. Straight talking, honest politics, people! They should be honest and say it will require tax rises and new tax revenue, and start small, by abolishing fees, and then working on reducing student debt (possibly by making it a tax deductible added to the tax allowance). Abolishing the debt in one huge jump is going to cause problems. I think its a decent ambition to aim for, as opposed to the opposition party which has saddled students with massive debts. Which really was just a rationalisation of the introduction of student loans over student grants. Which really was all about how the Conservative government tax cuts and 'reform of education'. Higher Education has become a business in the UK, that is all about provision of graduates for corporate interests and University profits, and that is going to be a consequence that haunts this country in the future culturally.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Jul 17 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
At least Corbyn wants peace. Bit like John Lennon really, all he is saying is give peace a chance while hobnobbing with the IRA and other terrorists.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Jul 17 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
What will be interesting is whether Corbyn can hold the party together. The Tories have a history of discipline whereas Labour, apart from most of the Blair years, enjoy a good civil war. He will need to compromise with those from the traditional wing of Labour if he is to have a chance for power. Doing better than expected in an election will only do him well for a limited period of time. He will also need to curb the activities of some of his more excitable supporters. A lot of their activities activity prevent people from voting for him. Now is the time when he will prove whether he is a serious contender and that entails doing more than simply 'demanding' Theresa May resigns on a weekly basis. The Conservatives seem to be in a civil war mode at the moment. Oddly their leader is popular with the party, where as Labours isn't, but paradoxically their view with the public seems reversed.
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| matt_himself Matataland 17 Jul 17 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
They should be honest and say it will require tax rises and new tax revenue, and start small, by abolishing fees, and then working on reducing student debt (possibly by making it a tax deductible added to the tax allowance). Abolishing the debt in one huge jump is going to cause problems. I think its a decent ambition to aim for, as opposed to the opposition party which has saddled students with massive debts. Which really was just a rationalisation of the introduction of student loans over student grants. Which really was all about how the Conservative government tax cuts and 'reform of education'. Higher Education has become a business in the UK, that is all about provision of graduates for corporate interests and University profits, and that is going to be a consequence that haunts this country in the future culturally. There is a bigger issue here and that is now Labour are flipping promises made before the election and apparently highlighting that their policies were uncosted. Also, there is an argument that 'free' higher education would effectively be a middle class benefit and would squeeze further education spending and further education is comprised of far more working class people than higher education ever will be.
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 Scucca Ely 17 Jul 17 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Labour u-turn on Tuition Fees: Wiping out tuition fee debt is now an 'ambition', as opposed to policy pre-election. Straight talking, honest politics, people! Yes, well they realised that someone couldn't add up. Turns out their 'fully costed' figure of £12.2b is actually £100b. No wonder it's now just an ambition. I wonder who did the initial maths? Um, no, it couldn't be ... could it?
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| elgrande bedford 17 Jul 17 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Scucca
Yes, well they realised that someone couldn't add up. Turns out their 'fully costed' figure of £12.2b is actually £100b. No wonder it's now just an ambition. I wonder who did the initial maths? Um, no, it couldn't be ... could it?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jul 17 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Scucca
Yes, well they realised that someone couldn't add up. Turns out their 'fully costed' figure of £12.2b is actually £100b. No wonder it's now just an ambition. I wonder who did the initial maths? Um, no, it couldn't be ... could it? Maybe, in the light of the above, Labour will need to scrap this idea as well and reduce it to an "Ambition" :: Target of “eliminating the Government's deficit on day-to-day spending within five years”
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| steeleye20 Croydon 18 Jul 17 3.52pm |
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Jeremy on your bike!! Labour voters are predominately remainers and it is splitting the labour party. This probably reflects the country too. Oppositions should oppose labour could be in gov ernment but they neglected 49% of the people.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 18 Jul 17 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Scucca
Yes, well they realised that someone couldn't add up. Turns out their 'fully costed' figure of £12.2b is actually £100b. No wonder it's now just an ambition. I wonder who did the initial maths? Um, no, it couldn't be ... could it? You don't mean Matt? He could not count to 22 without taking his shoes off.
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