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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 5.01pm
In other news... [Link] C'mon Connor, why would you even want to go back?? Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 5.01pm

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C'mon Connor, why would you even want to go back??

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 24 Feb 22 5.01pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Russia would be justified in de-militarising Ukraine if it cannot stop them from harming its people any other way. And the evidence that it's people have been subjected to bullying and genocide is compelling on the ground. It looks very like the Balkans wars of the '90s. You really are sounding like a 1930's Nazi apologist as they are about to invade Poland. As for the compelling evidence about genocide against ethnic Russinas in Ukraine - can you share that with us? The world is watching an invasion of a counrty with inevitable casualties and the only people cheering are Russian Putin supporters, RT and about 3 poeple on HOL. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 24 Feb 22 5.01pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Russia would be justified in de-militarising Ukraine if it cannot stop them from harming its people any other way.

And the evidence that it's people have been subjected to bullying and genocide is compelling on the ground.

It looks very like the Balkans wars of the '90s.

You really are sounding like a 1930's Nazi apologist as they are about to invade Poland.
As for the compelling evidence about genocide against ethnic Russinas in Ukraine - can you share that with us?
The world is watching an invasion of a counrty with inevitable casualties and the only people cheering are Russian Putin supporters, RT and about 3 poeple on HOL.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Feb 22 5.03pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Russia would be justified in de-militarising Ukraine if it cannot stop them from harming its people any other way. And the evidence that it's people have been subjected to bullying and genocide is compelling on the ground. It looks very like the Balkans wars of the '90s. I always suspected that you were a little special Steeleye, but surely you can't be this gullible.
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Originally posted by steeleye20

Russia would be justified in de-militarising Ukraine if it cannot stop them from harming its people any other way.

And the evidence that it's people have been subjected to bullying and genocide is compelling on the ground.

It looks very like the Balkans wars of the '90s.

I always suspected that you were a little special Steeleye, but surely you can't be this gullible.

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 5.04pm
Quote More than 150 senior Russian officials have signed an open letter condemning Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warning of 'catastrophic consequences'. The deputies said they were 'convinced' Russian citizens do not back the war and blamed Putin 'personally' for ordering troops into Ukraine in an attack 'for which there is no and cannot be justification'. [Link] This takes quite some bravery in a country where there can be genuinely severe consequences for going against the grain. With tough sanctions, hopefully the oligarchs that Putin actually cares about (rather then the people he doesn't) will feel the pinch to the extent that the consequences are finally his to face. Wishful thinking perhaps, but who knows.
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Quote More than 150 senior Russian officials have signed an open letter condemning Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warning of 'catastrophic consequences'.

The deputies said they were 'convinced' Russian citizens do not back the war and blamed Putin 'personally' for ordering troops into Ukraine in an attack 'for which there is no and cannot be justification'.

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This takes quite some bravery in a country where there can be genuinely severe consequences for going against the grain. With tough sanctions, hopefully the oligarchs that Putin actually cares about (rather then the people he doesn't) will feel the pinch to the extent that the consequences are finally his to face. Wishful thinking perhaps, but who knows.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 Feb 22 5.06pm
Originally posted by kevlee The world is watching an invasion of a counrty with inevitable casualties and the only people cheering are Russian Putin supporters, RT and about 3 poeple on HOL. Biden did cheer the invasion until his nurse changed his meds. He thought it was the super bowl. Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Feb 2022 5.08pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by kevlee

The world is watching an invasion of a counrty with inevitable casualties and the only people cheering are Russian Putin supporters, RT and about 3 poeple on HOL.

Biden did cheer the invasion until his nurse changed his meds.

He thought it was the super bowl.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Feb 2022 5.08pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Croydon 24 Feb 22 5.10pm
Originally posted by kevlee You really are sounding like a 1930's Nazi apologist as they are about to invade Poland. As for the compelling evidence about genocide against ethnic Russinas in Ukraine - can you share that with us? The world is watching an invasion of a counrty with inevitable casualties and the only people cheering are Russian Putin supporters, RT and about 3 poeple on HOL. You will just have to get off your arse and question things.
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steeleye20

Croydon 24 Feb 22 5.10pm

Originally posted by kevlee

You will just have to get off your arse and question things.

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 5.12pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You will just have to get off your arse and question things. Great, when are you going to start?
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Originally posted by steeleye20

You will just have to get off your arse and question things.

Great, when are you going to start?

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 5.15pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Most people with common sense I'd say which I am inclined to attribute to most the population, although that me be unrealistically idealistic. True, true. Real life has reasonably effective filters for those who fall short socially and behaviorally.
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UK 24 Feb 22 5.15pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Most people with common sense I'd say which I am inclined to attribute to most the population, although that me be unrealistically idealistic.

True, true. Real life has reasonably effective filters for those who fall short socially and behaviorally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Feb 22 5.25pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Napoleon and Hitler are the reason the Russians want to defend themselves from the West. The EU? New flag, same old arrogance. There is a great deal of bs in this thread. Some of it really stinks. The above, alongside other contributions from this poster, are though a whole cess pit on their own. There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Those who attempt to find an apology for him are not fit and proper British citizens. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Feb 22 5.25pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Napoleon and Hitler are the reason the Russians want to defend themselves from the West.

The EU? New flag, same old arrogance.

There is a great deal of bs in this thread. Some of it really stinks.

The above, alongside other contributions from this poster, are though a whole cess pit on their own.

There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Those who attempt to find an apology for him are not fit and proper British citizens.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 5.27pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is a great deal of bs in this thread. Some of it really stinks. The above, alongside other contributions from this poster, are though a whole cess pit on their own. There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Those who attempt to find an apology for him are not fit and proper British citizens. Bit harsh, perhaps change 'British citizens' for 'social, political, economic and military commentators'? Just a thought.... Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 5.27pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is a great deal of bs in this thread. Some of it really stinks.

The above, alongside other contributions from this poster, are though a whole cess pit on their own.

There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Those who attempt to find an apology for him are not fit and proper British citizens.

Bit harsh, perhaps change 'British citizens' for 'social, political, economic and military commentators'? Just a thought....

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 5.41pm
Anti-war protests break out across Russia despite attempts to stifle them - [Link] Sounds like they've per-emptively arrested lots of people, and many others right now (several hundred so far) for peacefully daring to hold a fair minded view (oh such freedom..). But still some are willing to let their feelings be known. Good for them. Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 5.47pm)
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UK 24 Feb 22 5.41pm

Anti-war protests break out across Russia despite attempts to stifle them - [Link]

Sounds like they've per-emptively arrested lots of people, and many others right now (several hundred so far) for peacefully daring to hold a fair minded view (oh such freedom..). But still some are willing to let their feelings be known. Good for them.

Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 5.47pm)

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Stirlingsays 24 Feb 22 5.51pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is a great deal of bs in this thread. Some of it really stinks. The above, alongside other contributions from this poster, are though a whole cess pit on their own. There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Those who attempt to find an apology for him are not fit and proper British citizens. So essentially you agree with him, you just differ on the criteria. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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