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silvertop Portishead 01 Feb 22 11.57am
Originally posted by HKOwen I was hoping he was going to self combust the pompous two faced git. You are kidding right. When Iain Paisley got booted out for some rant, he went to see the Speaker and personally thanked him. This was a tactic from the same play book. BTW, I am no supporter, but what do you see as his 2 faces?
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silvertop

Portishead 01 Feb 22 11.57am

Originally posted by HKOwen

I was hoping he was going to self combust the pompous two faced git.

You are kidding right. When Iain Paisley got booted out for some rant, he went to see the Speaker and personally thanked him. This was a tactic from the same play book.

BTW, I am no supporter, but what do you see as his 2 faces?

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silvertop Portishead 01 Feb 22 12.00pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Leadership is not a popularity contest. Whoever replaces Johnson will have to steer through inflation, fuel prices and the NI proposed increase etc etc. I think we need to look outside the betting. Tugendhat, Baker, Wallace all decent prospects for me. All seem to have integrity and common sense. Yes and already lining himself up.
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Portishead 01 Feb 22 12.00pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Leadership is not a popularity contest.

Whoever replaces Johnson will have to steer through inflation, fuel prices and the NI proposed increase etc etc.

I think we need to look outside the betting.

Tugendhat, Baker, Wallace all decent prospects for me.

All seem to have integrity and common sense.

Yes and already lining himself up.

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The Dolphin 01 Feb 22 1.49pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Out of interest, who do you see as the next potential leader? Rishi Sunak is clear favourite with the bookmakers, with Liz Truss second. That is likely their concern, that despite the damage done, they're not exactly overflowing with leadership material. The same could of course also be said about Labour. I can only see Sunak being the one to take over always assuming that he wants it. After that - it is a poor set of candidates as it is all through politics now. As I have posted many times - there isn't a decent leader amongst them other than Boris but he is no good at the details stuff and has blotted his copybook rather badly now. I despair and worry in equal measure about who is capable of leading us any longer.
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01 Feb 22 1.49pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Out of interest, who do you see as the next potential leader? Rishi Sunak is clear favourite with the bookmakers, with Liz Truss second. That is likely their concern, that despite the damage done, they're not exactly overflowing with leadership material. The same could of course also be said about Labour.

I can only see Sunak being the one to take over always assuming that he wants it.

After that - it is a poor set of candidates as it is all through politics now.
As I have posted many times - there isn't a decent leader amongst them other than Boris but he is no good at the details stuff and has blotted his copybook rather badly now.
I despair and worry in equal measure about who is capable of leading us any longer.

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The Dolphin 01 Feb 22 1.52pm
Originally posted by silvertop Ah, you've come round. The point that people are getting exercised by a bit of cake when the Russians are "at the door" is a good one in terms of proportion. However, notwithstanding the critical principle of making the rules and then living within them, as well as displaying honesty and integrity one expects and needs from our senior world leader, there is also the point that this "rabble" made the distraction in the first place. Let's get real here - they are pretty much all corrupt one way or another. From expenses scandals to being lobbied to do someone a favour - they are all at it. I detest seeing these holier than thou Politicians slagging Boris off when they know full well they are breaking other rules every day of the week. They all seem to lie on a daily basis - it just becomes a habit with them. Despicable, self serving people - most of them anyway!
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01 Feb 22 1.52pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Ah, you've come round.

The point that people are getting exercised by a bit of cake when the Russians are "at the door" is a good one in terms of proportion. However, notwithstanding the critical principle of making the rules and then living within them, as well as displaying honesty and integrity one expects and needs from our senior world leader, there is also the point that this "rabble" made the distraction in the first place.

Let's get real here - they are pretty much all corrupt one way or another.
From expenses scandals to being lobbied to do someone a favour - they are all at it.
I detest seeing these holier than thou Politicians slagging Boris off when they know full well they are breaking other rules every day of the week.
They all seem to lie on a daily basis - it just becomes a habit with them.
Despicable, self serving people - most of them anyway!

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 01 Feb 22 2.04pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin I can only see Sunak being the one to take over always assuming that he wants it. After that - it is a poor set of candidates as it is all through politics now. As I have posted many times - there isn't a decent leader amongst them other than Boris but he is no good at the details stuff and has blotted his copybook rather badly now. I despair and worry in equal measure about who is capable of leading us any longer. In what world can you still describe Boris as a 'decent leader'?
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Originally posted by The Dolphin

I can only see Sunak being the one to take over always assuming that he wants it.

In what world can you still describe Boris as a 'decent leader'?

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 01 Feb 22 5.56pm
BJ now shouting out rants worthy of a drunk at closing time about Starmer. And lies, to boot. "Boris Johnson “stands by” his false claim that Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, according to Downing Street. The prime minister provoked fury by deploying the smear during fiery Commons clashes with the Labour leader, a former Director of Public Prosecutions." (Yahoo) I disengage, I turn the page.
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BJ now shouting out rants worthy of a drunk at closing time about Starmer. And lies, to boot.

"Boris Johnson “stands by” his false claim that Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, according to Downing Street.

The prime minister provoked fury by deploying the smear during fiery Commons clashes with the Labour leader, a former Director of Public Prosecutions." (Yahoo)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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steeleye20 Croydon 01 Feb 22 6.25pm
Really the slur that he is somehow implicated with Saville is beyond the pale. Here is the Leaderine in all her glory sucking up to Saville:- [Link]
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Croydon 01 Feb 22 6.25pm

Really the slur that he is somehow implicated with Saville is beyond the pale.

Here is the Leaderine in all her glory sucking up to Saville:-

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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Feb 22 6.30pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly BJ now shouting out rants worthy of a drunk at closing time about Starmer. And lies, to boot. it's quite rare for a psychopath to get emotional, to lose their sh1t in public. Sometimes its all just an act. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

BJ now shouting out rants worthy of a drunk at closing time about Starmer. And lies, to boot.

it's quite rare for a psychopath to get emotional, to lose their sh1t in public. Sometimes its all just an act.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Midlands Eagle 01 Feb 22 7.37pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin Blackford being thrown out is the best news of the day so far - I cannot abide that man! Did you actually watch it as whether you like the man or not he was thrown out for claiming that Boris had misled parliament and refusing to retract his statement. Boris clearly has misled parliament and Ian Blackford was quite right to stick to his guns. During Blackford's speech about partying whilst the population were denied from attending their families funerals or visiting dying relatives the cameras cut to Boris who was smirking. I have never voted other than Conservative in all my long life but the sight of Boris smirking at a time when he should have been grovelling was sickening and I would like him out as soon as possible. I couldn't care less if there is no suitable replacement as I just want him out.
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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Blackford being thrown out is the best news of the day so far - I cannot abide that man!

Did you actually watch it as whether you like the man or not he was thrown out for claiming that Boris had misled parliament and refusing to retract his statement.

Boris clearly has misled parliament and Ian Blackford was quite right to stick to his guns.

During Blackford's speech about partying whilst the population were denied from attending their families funerals or visiting dying relatives the cameras cut to Boris who was smirking.

I have never voted other than Conservative in all my long life but the sight of Boris smirking at a time when he should have been grovelling was sickening and I would like him out as soon as possible. I couldn't care less if there is no suitable replacement as I just want him out.

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Eden Eagle Kent 01 Feb 22 8.27pm
Originally posted by silvertop Yes and already lining himself up. My local MP - seems a decent guy and could be what we need after the lies and sleaze of Johnson.
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Kent 01 Feb 22 8.27pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Yes and already lining himself up.

My local MP - seems a decent guy and could be what we need after the lies and sleaze of Johnson.

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Eden Eagle Kent 01 Feb 22 8.28pm
Originally posted by Eden Eagle Tugendhat- My local MP - seems a decent guy and could be what we need after the lies and sleaze of Johnson.
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Kent 01 Feb 22 8.28pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Tugendhat- My local MP - seems a decent guy and could be what we need after the lies and sleaze of Johnson.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Feb 22 10.26am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Did you actually watch it as whether you like the man or not he was thrown out for claiming that Boris had misled parliament and refusing to retract his statement. Boris clearly has misled parliament and Ian Blackford was quite right to stick to his guns. During Blackford's speech about partying whilst the population were denied from attending their families funerals or visiting dying relatives the cameras cut to Boris who was smirking. I have never voted other than Conservative in all my long life but the sight of Boris smirking at a time when he should have been grovelling was sickening and I would like him out as soon as possible. I couldn't care less if there is no suitable replacement as I just want him out. This seems to be a very widespread view. Everyone I chat to say much the same, as do the TV interviews, from people of all political persuasions. So the MPs will now have to decide whether leaving him in place for longer will reflect so badly on them that dumping him now, and having a new leader in the limelight for longer during a probably difficult couple of years, is a lesser risk. Piling all the blame on him in 18 months and a fresh face to go into the GE would be the politically wise thing, but will the people accept it? They want to see decency restored. Time for the old order to step back in. Time for Hunt! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 02 Feb 22 10.26am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Did you actually watch it as whether you like the man or not he was thrown out for claiming that Boris had misled parliament and refusing to retract his statement.

Boris clearly has misled parliament and Ian Blackford was quite right to stick to his guns.

During Blackford's speech about partying whilst the population were denied from attending their families funerals or visiting dying relatives the cameras cut to Boris who was smirking.

I have never voted other than Conservative in all my long life but the sight of Boris smirking at a time when he should have been grovelling was sickening and I would like him out as soon as possible. I couldn't care less if there is no suitable replacement as I just want him out.

This seems to be a very widespread view. Everyone I chat to say much the same, as do the TV interviews, from people of all political persuasions.

So the MPs will now have to decide whether leaving him in place for longer will reflect so badly on them that dumping him now, and having a new leader in the limelight for longer during a probably difficult couple of years, is a lesser risk. Piling all the blame on him in 18 months and a fresh face to go into the GE would be the politically wise thing, but will the people accept it? They want to see decency restored. Time for the old order to step back in. Time for Hunt!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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