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 NKEagle  Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
"Jew" is an ethnic as well as religious definition. You can renounce Judaism but you'd still be a Jew. islam is a religion. And that's all. You can renounce islam if you're a muslim but all that means is that you're not muslim. In most Muslim countries doing so tends to seriously shorten one's lifespan.
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PaddyMcPaddy  05 Jun 17 1.25pm |
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I'm glad I've read all these pages. I now realised it's: The crusaders fault, May's fault (Tories in general fault), possibly the Catholic Irish's fault and all our arrangements with Saudi. So lets get rid of all the tories and the Christians and Catholics (Irish or not). Then the problem will be sorted. Oh wait....
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 05 Jun 17 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by NKEagle
In most Muslim countries doing so tends to seriously shorten one's lifespan. Ah, yes. The religion of peace.
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| Part Time James 05 Jun 17 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
I was at a concert at the Albert hall last night. The odd empty seat at a sell out concert but there could be loads of reasons for that. I felt a little nervous about going but was fine once there. During the interval a police officer appeared and was walking around in the venue and two women to the side of me appeared noticeably agitated by an officer being there and were asking the steward what was happening and was everything ok and so on. Lots and lots of police around the closer we got to London as we drove there . Just to add security wise it was open bag shine a torch inside job done. No frisk, no pat down, no metal detectors . My husband was waved straight through without a second glance Edited by Michaelawt85 (05 Jun 2017 12.39pm) I do agree with you and Kermit that not everybody is acting on their fear. My example related to people that had a safer alternative (i.e.: work from home instead of London) but there's more defiance about not missing out on things because of a few bad people. Last week was my birthday and my wife had a day out booked in London 2 days after the Manchester attack. We still went to the event we had paid for, but we wanted to go and do some more adhoc stuff in London as well (for example my favourite band were doing a DVD signing) but we just decided against it and cut short our trip to London. When I talk about people being "afraid", I don't mean that that fear necessarily alters their plans or lives, but that doesn't mean that non-prohibiting fear is a nice or acceptable thing to have to live with.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Jun 17 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Taking just language for example. A few cases immediately spring to mind: Belgium, Dutch and French speakers - periodic violence and general antagonism; Quebec, English and French speakers - Its a power thing. Its like nationalism in many ways, groups identify with differences, and the easiest way to gain power / political influence over a group is to appeal to certain elements of the identity. Now this isn't necessarily destructive, and can be a tool for progress. However among the less salubrious, such as extremists, its much easier to manipulate this differences to create a hostility - typically by blaming x for y's short comings and this is a very potent political tool, particually for groups pushing an agenda. In the right hands, sooner rather than later you're either building concentration camps, gulags, chopping off arms and burning people alive, who you used to trust to look after your kids on a Saturday when you popped to the shops, or your accepting it as a necessary "evil"
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Jun 17 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
"Jew" is an ethnic as well as religious definition. You can renounce Judaism but you'd still be a Jew. islam is a religion. And that's all. You can renounce islam if you're a muslim but all that means is that you're not muslim. I'm not sure that's correct. Its also technically not true of Christians either. Whilst I like to think I am not a Christian, I was baptised, so unless I undergo excommunication or something similar, I am technically still Christian. Of course its all f**king bullsh*t of the highest order. All these dogmatic faiths want is power over peoples personal lives for their organisations own political ends, and unlike politics, they have their own special 'absolute truths'. Dogmatic religions are effectively another Big Brother. They want absolute power and control over people, regardless of the cost to those people.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Jun 17 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
We are now a country where people are afraid to go out and to live but nobody is afraid to preach hatred against British citizens or sympathise with terrorists. That's really not the right way round for me. The only reason these f**kers get away with it is because they're like a wasp trap near the nest. It'd be a damn site harder to find these f**kers if they didn't keep hanging out with shouty loud mouths.
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| NKEagle Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by 7mins
If that is true (it isn't). Why are Isis killing fellow Muslims in the Middle East? It's a death cult. in all of recorded history, has any good ever come out of a western country meddling in the Middle East? Yes, muslims certainly do seem to enjoy killing one another and doing all sorts of other horrible things to one another. But how is that our problem? Think of all of the resources and lives that western countries have poured into the Middle East. On balance, no good whatsoever has come from it.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 05 Jun 17 1.55pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Of course its all f**king bullsh*t of the highest order. All these dogmatic faiths want is power over peoples personal lives for their organisations own political ends, and unlike politics, they have their own special 'absolute truths'. Dogmatic religions are effectively another Big Brother. They want absolute power and control over people, regardless of the cost to those people. Well, I am sure, so that saves us the trouble of debating it. You'd argue that up was down, you would.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jun 17 1.55pm |
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Originally posted by NKEagle
in all of recorded history, has any good ever come out of a western country meddling in the Middle East? Yes, muslims certainly do seem to enjoy killing one another and doing all sorts of other horrible things to one another. But how is that our problem? Think of all of the resources and lives that western countries have poured into the Middle East. On balance, no good whatsoever has come from it. What Churchill said about Islam in the middle east wasn't very politically correct.....But it certainly hit the nail on the head. Only the reformists can show the future for Islam in the UK. Unfortunately because of the voices of those who fight against any change we have to watch plenty more of our children and adults get blown up and/or mangled by vans and/or knifed before anything actually effective is done about it. If it even is. Apparently in 2006 intelligence given to Cameron stated that approximately 200 people are planning attacks in this country at any one time. There were roughly a million less Muslims here ten years ago. We have great security services here.....despite their methods regularly being leaked onto the Internet. Still, I don't blame anyone for worrying about this....It's a small but realistic concern. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2017 2.02pm)
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europalace  Europe 05 Jun 17 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I really don't care what you call them. I want to stop more of them coming here and I want to remove those that are here by any means necessary. The government need to take decisive action.
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| NKEagle Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Imagine how peaceful Northern Ireland would have been without Christianity. I often think of that episode of the X Files where Mulder wishes for world peace, and as a result finds himself the only living person on earth.
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