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Seth On a pale blue dot 12 Sep 14 1.05am
I had a bit of bud off a geezer in the Blind Badger the other night. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 12 Sep 14 1.05am

I had a bit of bud off a geezer in the Blind Badger the other night.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Kermit8 Hevon 14 Sep 14 9.23am
Rip David Haines Now beheading voluntary workers A bit of targeted carpet bombing please now Yanks and soon. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Kermit8

Hevon 14 Sep 14 9.23am

Rip David Haines

Now beheading voluntary workers

A bit of targeted carpet bombing please now Yanks and soon.

Big chest and massive boobs

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legaleagle 14 Sep 14 11.01am
RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family. Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun supporters and ex Guantanamo prisoner like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact on UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS. Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them? Edited by legaleagle (14 Sep 2014 11.04am)
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14 Sep 14 11.01am

RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family.

Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun supporters and ex Guantanamo prisoner like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact on UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS.

Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them?

Edited by legaleagle (14 Sep 2014 11.04am)

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Kermit8 Hevon 14 Sep 14 11.05am
Quote legaleagle at 14 Sep 2014 11.01am RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family. Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun members and ex Guantanamo prisoners like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact in UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS. Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them? From BBC. Not CAGE but still worth posting; "Senior UK imams and British Muslim community leaders have also condemned the killing, including Shuja Shafi of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "David Haines went out to the region to help the people of the region. That extremists chose to murder him only shows once again the depravity of their warped ideology. "These extremists in Iraq and Syria claim to be acting in the name of Islam. But there is nothing in our faith that condones such behaviour. "These extremists wish to draw attention and recruits to their cause by sowing division and fear between people here in Britain. Let us deny them that luxury. The best way to defeat their extremism is to build even stronger bonds between communities here in Britain." Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 14 Sep 14 11.05am

Quote legaleagle at 14 Sep 2014 11.01am

RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family.

Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun members and ex Guantanamo prisoners like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact in UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS.

Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them?

From BBC. Not CAGE but still worth posting;

"Senior UK imams and British Muslim community leaders have also condemned the killing, including Shuja Shafi of the Muslim Council of Britain.

He said: "David Haines went out to the region to help the people of the region. That extremists chose to murder him only shows once again the depravity of their warped ideology.

"These extremists in Iraq and Syria claim to be acting in the name of Islam. But there is nothing in our faith that condones such behaviour.

"These extremists wish to draw attention and recruits to their cause by sowing division and fear between people here in Britain. Let us deny them that luxury. The best way to defeat their extremism is to build even stronger bonds between communities here in Britain."

Big chest and massive boobs

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legaleagle 14 Sep 14 11.12am
Quote Kermit8 at 14 Sep 2014 11.05am Quote legaleagle at 14 Sep 2014 11.01am RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family. Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun members and ex Guantanamo prisoners like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact in UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS. Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them? From BBC. Not CAGE but still worth posting; "Senior UK imams and British Muslim community leaders have also condemned the killing, including Shuja Shafi of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "David Haines went out to the region to help the people of the region. That extremists chose to murder him only shows once again the depravity of their warped ideology. "These extremists in Iraq and Syria claim to be acting in the name of Islam. But there is nothing in our faith that condones such behaviour. "These extremists wish to draw attention and recruits to their cause by sowing division and fear between people here in Britain. Let us deny them that luxury. The best way to defeat their extremism is to build even stronger bonds between communities here in Britain." Absolutely. But they are mainstream and their criticisms no less valid or important for that in showing the vast majority of the community abhor ISIS. Cage represent the equivalent of Sinn Fein's support groups for Provo prisoners....ie they don't condemn the general ideology or desirability of the caliphate idea etc but don't engage in "armed struggle". I frequently come into contact with people affiliated with them seeking support. They have real influence amongst the sectors of the community who promote the validity of ideas that are stage 1 along the path to solidarity with/joining ISIS...and at times like this their sanctimonious one sided waffle leaves me feeling a little sick... Edited by legaleagle (14 Sep 2014 11.16am)
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14 Sep 14 11.12am

Quote Kermit8 at 14 Sep 2014 11.05am

Quote legaleagle at 14 Sep 2014 11.01am

RIP David Haines and thoughts with his family.

Will UK muslim groups like "Cage" (formerly Caged Prisoners) , who campaign against human rights abuses against prisoners in the "war on terror" stand up and condemn it out of hand? If a group like them (who are rooted in former Al Muhajiroun members and ex Guantanamo prisoners like Moazzam Begg) had issued strong statements calling for his release, it would have had an impact in UK ISIS-supporting circles and, who knows, PR -wise maybe even on ISIS.

Or do they only campaign against the human rights abuses that suit them?

From BBC. Not CAGE but still worth posting;

"Senior UK imams and British Muslim community leaders have also condemned the killing, including Shuja Shafi of the Muslim Council of Britain.

He said: "David Haines went out to the region to help the people of the region. That extremists chose to murder him only shows once again the depravity of their warped ideology.

"These extremists in Iraq and Syria claim to be acting in the name of Islam. But there is nothing in our faith that condones such behaviour.

Absolutely. But they are mainstream and their criticisms no less valid or important for that in showing the vast majority of the community abhor ISIS.

Cage represent the equivalent of Sinn Fein's support groups for Provo prisoners....ie they don't condemn the general ideology or desirability of the caliphate idea etc but don't engage in "armed struggle". I frequently come into contact with people affiliated with them seeking support. They have real influence amongst the sectors of the community who promote the validity of ideas that are stage 1 along the path to solidarity with/joining ISIS...and at times like this their sanctimonious one sided waffle leaves me feeling a little sick...

Edited by legaleagle (14 Sep 2014 11.16am)

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legaleagle 14 Sep 14 11.45am
Looks like another aid worker may be next in line [Link]
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14 Sep 14 11.45am

Looks like another aid worker may be next in line

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 14 Sep 14 12.29pm
There has been a lot of groundwork done over the past month or so. Time to take out large swathes of them and quickly. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 14 Sep 14 12.29pm

There has been a lot of groundwork done over the past month or so. Time to take out large swathes of them and quickly.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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cornwalls palace Torpoint 14 Sep 14 3.48pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 14 Sep 2014 12.29pm There has been a lot of groundwork done over the past month or so. Time to take out large swathes of them and quickly. ..like pouring Domestos over a turd. .......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!
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cornwalls palace

Torpoint 14 Sep 14 3.48pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 14 Sep 2014 12.29pm

There has been a lot of groundwork done over the past month or so. Time to take out large swathes of them and quickly.

..like pouring Domestos over a turd.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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GlaziersCPFC Tooting 14 Sep 14 3.55pm
What A Joke. Say in March I'd never heard of "ISIS". Another USA funded group, I'm guessing.
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GlaziersCPFC

Tooting 14 Sep 14 3.55pm

What A Joke. Say in March I'd never heard of "ISIS". Another USA funded group, I'm guessing.

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RainhamEagle Bermondsey 14 Sep 14 4.27pm
Quote GlaziersCPFC at 14 Sep 2014 3.55pm What A Joke. Say in March I'd never heard of "ISIS". Another USA funded group, I'm guessing. Yeah, they (thought at the time as civilians) were supported by the US against Assad and the Syrian government. We're in a tough place now though, it's a very dangerous situation, especially for ourselves. We can aid/support these innocent people getting executed by this barbaric group and attempt to take them out whilst it's somewhat doable and controllable, but also risk suicide missions on our own land. Or, we can sit back, let this barbaric group expand at the rate they already are and still have a good chance of suicide missions happening on our own land.
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RainhamEagle

Bermondsey 14 Sep 14 4.27pm

Quote GlaziersCPFC at 14 Sep 2014 3.55pm

What A Joke. Say in March I'd never heard of "ISIS". Another USA funded group, I'm guessing.

Yeah, they (thought at the time as civilians) were supported by the US against Assad and the Syrian government.

We're in a tough place now though, it's a very dangerous situation, especially for ourselves. We can aid/support these innocent people getting executed by this barbaric group and attempt to take them out whilst it's somewhat doable and controllable, but also risk suicide missions on our own land. Or, we can sit back, let this barbaric group expand at the rate they already are and still have a good chance of suicide missions happening on our own land.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 14 Sep 14 5.15pm
The problem is we think differently to them. We can't play fair with these people. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 14 Sep 14 5.15pm

The problem is we think differently to them.

We can't play fair with these people.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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cornwalls palace Torpoint 14 Sep 14 10.10pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 14 Sep 2014 5.15pm The problem is we think differently to them. We can't play fair with these people. ..yeah, we think. .......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!
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cornwalls palace

Torpoint 14 Sep 14 10.10pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 14 Sep 2014 5.15pm

The problem is we think differently to them.

We can't play fair with these people.

..yeah, we think.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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