Being called 'extreme right' when my views, on immigration and borders are little different to that expressed by the Dalai Lama just shows how ridiculous some people are.

They might not agree, which is one thing but they demonstrate a very poor and demonised understanding of the positions of people who point out the issues with their ideas.

I was a teacher for years, which in part was educating minorities and foreigners....plenty of whom I helped along the way. You would think that some nuance would be applied instead of the usual 'you're extreme' or 'you haven't travelled enough'....when I actually have quite a bit.

Then again seeing where the source comes from I shouldn't have cause to complain.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Nov 2021 12.56pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, it's the modern age's version of witch hunting.....we have an ocean of indoctrinated who think they are Matthew Hopkins (those who know know).

They think they are left wing when in reality they are just establishment pawns of the powerful, both state and corporate.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

To an extent I'd agree with you.

I think both the right and left are victims of the same global cartels.....whatever left/right/neo liberal favour it is.....Different stories exist for different leaders....I wouldn't call Orban as guilty as Johnson for example.

My observation was more towards those on the left who don't understand that the system is run for the wealthy and not them.....waving alphabet flags and mouthing egalitarian words doesn't change that....though it's certainly changed the left.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, you see what nonsense is publicised today over what people should and shouldn't say and you shake your head.

It's usually entitled silver spooners like Ramsey's daughter complaining because some media mouthpiece called her chunky or something....which she is.

It's nothing.....pure snowflakey when compared to the stress a family goes through under repossession and severe money troubles, ptsd from Military/Police/emergency and so on services.

That's real mental health right there.....not the first world problems that numpties have when someone essentially criticises them....but no one seems to give a feck about real stress because it doesn't involve a celebrity or well to do.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Nov 2021 2.51pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

getting back to the main subject of the OP,

has compensation money been paid to any of the victims ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

I would have expected that experience to have had the opposite effect to the one it appears to have done. I would have thought you might have now had more sympathy for those down on their luck, or otherwise disadvantaged, than you routinely show. Instead, it seems to have hardened your attitudes rather than soften them.

I watched the "Pride of Britain" award show on ITV this evening. Such shows normally pass me by. Watching luvvies gush to each other is not something I enjoy. This though, featured ordinary people doing extraordinary things and was genuinely inspiring.

Such a refreshing contrast to some of the attitudes to be found here. One young man, a Syrian refugee and a Muslim, especially so.

If you didn't see it, then do try to on "catch-up".

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.