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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 23 3.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
He's probably been mistaken for The beast of Bodmin.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 23 10.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Apparently the evidence isn't thought to be strong enough to indict him and it would be risky to try and prove anything more than a misdemeanor. It must not be forgotten that Trump, and his father before him, did a lot of their business in New York and have a history there, much of it unpalatable. It would not therefore be surprising if there was a greater appetite to see Trump bought to book there than, say, in Miami, or indeed in Washington. That's not politics though. That's a local reputation amplified by national exposure, which would be just the same if he positioned himself as a Democrat. Maybe the indictment won't be proved. If so it would hand Trump a major propaganda victory. So if this is politically motivated it seems an unwise decision to go ahead if indeed it is "risky".
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 23 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Can you list some of the books. Unless you have been asleep for the last decade you will have every bit as much knowledge as I do about all of those things. I guess you don't read too many books, so perhaps a few of the more salacious bits might be better, try this:- If you do want to actually read some though, start with Michael Wolff's "Fire & Fury", then follow up with "Siege: Trump under Fire" and then his last "Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency". Read them all, and you will get it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 23 11.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Your outrage only ever seems to flow in one direction. You talk about 'whataboutery' like it's an excuse for anyone, other than the people you oppose, to do what they like.
My “outrage” only flows towards things I both perceive as a threat and which any words from me might make a difference. Trump being a prime example. Whataboutism gives no one the right to do what they like. It’s just a diversionary tactic used to try to avoid focussing on something the poster doesn’t’ want to face. I have perfect vision. With my glasses! And I have an appointment with Specsavers this week!
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Teddy Eagle 02 Apr 23 11.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It must not be forgotten that Trump, and his father before him, did a lot of their business in New York and have a history there, much of it unpalatable. It would not therefore be surprising if there was a greater appetite to see Trump bought to book there than, say, in Miami, or indeed in Washington. That's not politics though. That's a local reputation amplified by national exposure, which would be just the same if he positioned himself as a Democrat. Maybe the indictment won't be proved. If so it would hand Trump a major propaganda victory. So if this is politically motivated it seems an unwise decision to go ahead if indeed it is "risky". It seems to be quite a concern that he could be handed a propaganda boost if his indictment can be spun as victimisation. In the scheme of things this does seem a very minor charge to bring against him and would apparently be quite difficult to prove anyway.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 23 11.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It's pretty difficult not to hear the constant chuntering of the disillusioned right on these pages. It's a daily flood of prejudice and backward thinking.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 23 11.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He's probably been mistaken for The beast of Bodmin. No chance. Bodmin moor is a wet and windy place at almost all seasons. You won't find me out there. The pubs are nice though.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 03 Apr 23 8.16am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On what basis? That this wasn't a federal matter but something to be considered at state level? There were a number of issues that Robert Mueller sent to New York, after he had completed his enquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election, because there is no Presidential immunity available for state level indictments. Deciding where best to bring charges is something that lawyers do all the time. That's not politics. It's deciding where the law is most likely to be effective. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (02 Apr 2023 1.30pm) Probably a moot point. The theory is that politics and the legal system are totally separate institutions, with no crossover or influence. Actually, plenty of decisions regarding prosecution (or not) and their timings are influenced from outside the legal system.
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georgenorman 03 Apr 23 8.20am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Unless you have been asleep for the last decade you will have every bit as much knowledge as I do about all of those things. I guess you don't read too many books, so perhaps a few of the more salacious bits might be better, try this:- If you do want to actually read some though, start with Michael Wolff's "Fire & Fury", then follow up with "Siege: Trump under Fire" and then his last "Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency". Read them all, and you will get it. Michael Wolff – seriously! Even the Guardian criticized Wolff’s book Famous for the way it portrayed controversial celebrities. Several people have denied quotes published in Fire and Fury. Reporter David Brooks questioned Wolff's credibility since Wolff has been known to not check his facts. Brooks expressed doubts about Wolff's journalistic methods and conveyed skepticism over the accuracy of Fire and Fury. Journalist Steven Rattner referred to Wolff as an “unprincipled writer of fiction.” Alan Dershowitz criticized Wolff's book Siege: Trump Under Fire calling it fiction. PolitiFact writer Angie Drobnic Holan noted that Fire and Fury contains several factual errors. Wolff used Sam Nunberg as a source in Fire and Fury and Nunberg has admitted fabricating stories.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 23 1.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's pretty difficult not to hear the constant chuntering of the disillusioned right on these pages. It's a daily flood of prejudice and backward thinking. From the man who wants to take us back into Europe. A man who denies that the EU wants to be a one government super state when the primary figurehead representing those wishing a return unashamedly states that his ultimate goal is a world government. A man who would rather whine about the 'Right Wing' than catch rapists. A man who thinks it's OK to prosecute former Presidents to undermine the democratic process, when he regularly asserts that the law and democratic process are beyond reproach. A man who denies the inevitable replacement of the Northern European British in Britain when the population has been reduced by 25% in one lifetime and 6% in the last 10 years alone.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 23 1.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No chance. Bodmin moor is a wet and windy place at almost all seasons. You won't find me out there. The pubs are nice though. That is the general idea.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 23 8.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Probably a moot point. The theory is that politics and the legal system are totally separate institutions, with no crossover or influence. Actually, plenty of decisions regarding prosecution (or not) and their timings are influenced from outside the legal system. Sure, governments determine priorities and strategies, whilst the individual decision-making is done locally. Perhaps you could post your reasoning on the grooming gangs thread too? It resonates there as well.
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