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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 09 Jun 17 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The best surge of support for a political party since 1945 is a victory of sorts. So is finally having a sh*t after three weeks of constipation. But neither gets you into Government. A better than expected showing, certainly, but defeat is defeat.
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 Stirlingsays 09 Jun 17 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
I'm afraid that Juncker probably feels the same way. Well, he is probably feeling a lot stronger now.
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europalace  Europe 09 Jun 17 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
It's time for Boris
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 09 Jun 17 2.19pm |
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Has anyone done any analysis on the impact of the UKIP national socialists on the results? Shame if they led directly to a hung Parliament. Edited by pefwin (09 Jun 2017 2.20pm)
"Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support." |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Jun 17 2.20pm |
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The main point is really that Mrs May called the election for an object namely unified support for her brexit negotiation. It isn't a normal election called every 5 years. So she has not got that as the result shows. I don't think she has any judgement or morals just to cling to power by any means.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 17 2.20pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There isn't when your pants have been pulled down. Go suck Corbyn's lollypop.
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The result is very bad for Britain. A lot of naive students and self interested minorities have tried to hijack our negotiating power. Then it's a direct mirror of the Brexit vote innit.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 09 Jun 17 2.27pm |
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This failure to support Brexit and give May a strong mandate. Is it a symptom of the fact that a significant number of Brexit voters who did not vote on a race lines were mislead by a series of massive lies and old EU myths put forward Farage , Gove and the Buffoon.
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| Mstrobez 09 Jun 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's like fcuking Star Wars....'Help us Boris you're our only hope.' Talk about dire straits. But that's where we are. Davidson? Can't make my mind up on her.
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| europalace Europe 09 Jun 17 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
This failure to support Brexit and give May a strong mandate. Is it a symptom of the fact that a significant number of Brexit voters who did not vote on a race lines were mislead by a series of massive lies and old EU myths put forward Farage , Gove and the Buffoon. Totally agree. Thats why if Johnson takes over as Tory PM, it will alienate even more to the remain side.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 17 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
This failure to support Brexit and give May a strong mandate. Is it a symptom of the fact that a significant number of Brexit voters who did not vote on a race lines were mislead by a series of massive lies and old EU myths put forward Farage , Gove and the Buffoon. How very one eyed. The remainers were just as full of it.
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| npn Crowborough 09 Jun 17 2.34pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Really? Nearly everyone I have spoken to who is British citizen and voted to 'leave' have said they would vote to remain in a 2nd referendum. Many said that as the story has unfolded they have realised what a disaster it would be for the UK and that they voted originally very naively and based on no real fact. Now the facts are coming out, many don't like the risk to their future or the future of their families, particularly their children. With regards to the EU acting like petulant children, all you're seeing is what the British press make up for their stories. the 'EU' is made up of 27 sovereign states and your viewpoint is typical - never understanding that there are 27 nations in these negotiations, not only the UK and one other. Now of course there has been a new raft of young people who can vote and as each month goes by, more will qualify age wise. A second EU referendum is now highly likey no matter what the British press will tell you and by then, even more young people will be voting. The whole idea of 'leaving' the EU was and still is a fad but it is a crumbling fad with the last 24 hours simply enforcing that fact. Edited by europalace (09 Jun 2017 2.18pm) My reference point is not the other 27, but those chosen to be the mouthpiece for them: Tusk and Junker. A worse pair of useless tw@ts it would be hard to imagine (except Abbott and McDonnell, of course, who Labour wisely took out of the limelight). I suspect that our different perceptions of up-to-date voting patterns probably reflects our geographic locations, what with you being in Europe (assuming you are). I did a quick Google and the most recent survey I could find (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/majority-british-voters-brexit-wrong-decision-yougov-poll-finds-a7704566.html) said that 45% thought leaving was a mistake, and 43% still backed it, so it would still be very tight. A slightly older one (January, I think) in the mirror (not linked because it's the mirror and therefore probably made up) said 13% of leave voters thought they'd got it wrong and would change their minds versus 10% of remain voters so, likewise, it would still be very tight, with voters going in both directions. The fact is that, even with the optimistic (from your standpoint) view of things, remain may win a new referendum by one or two percent (but I wouldn't like to call it) even after all the drama we've already seen. That says to me that it's clearly not the panacea those within the EU seem to think it is, and the people of the UK are very far from convinced.
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