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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 May 20 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Genuine question. Why do BAME people tend to avoid the sun more than white people? That’s a lifestyle choice. I take cod liver oil anyway. Had an elbow pain a few years ago for a long time and had gone within a month of taking for liver oil.

Isn’t this BAME claim exaggerated seeing as the virus is a problem in built up areas?

And as tasty as Caribbean and Indian food is, it is pretty high in saturated fat. Obesity or internal visceral fat is a problem when fighting off this virus.

Well, if you think that the fact ALL people in the Croydon ITU are BAME is exaggerated then that is up to you. I am reliably informed that many of the people there are slim professionals who probably have a very good lifestyle. The common factor appears to be low Vitamin D. It is normal for there to be low vitamin D early in the year, the nadir is generally during February. Add to that lock-in, which has probably reduced the amount of sunlight for most people, and that you need an awful lot more sun if you are black to create your Vitamin D.

Keep taking the cod liver oil, it really matters. And tell your black friends. And dark skinned asians.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 18 May 20 5.45pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

This is a disease of the over 75s, people with underlying health problems especially related to blood and BAME people.

Care homes was always going to be an issue. I do not believe the issue is primarily due to people coming from hospitals however. It is hard to imagine what could have been done to prevent the entry of the disease into homes given the high staffing requirements. It is true that the government was woefully slow at providing help and guidance. Most providers have reacted well however as have many local authorities. It is interesting how for example guidance on the use of PPE has changed almost daily, not well managed.

By the way, I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with your points earlier, merely giving you information.

I agree with much of what you say here. My frustrations are certainly not with those putting themselves at significant risk working in these environments, but instead with a joined up plan and lack of provisions from the top. Thanks for putting your points across in balanced and sensible fashion.


Edited by BlueJay (18 May 2020 5.47pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 18 May 20 5.52pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, if you think that the fact ALL people in the Croydon ITU are BAME is exaggerated then that is up to you. I am reliably informed that many of the people there are slim professionals who probably have a very good lifestyle. The common factor appears to be low Vitamin D. It is normal for there to be low vitamin D early in the year, the nadir is generally during February. Add to that lock-in, which has probably reduced the amount of sunlight for most people, and that you need an awful lot more sun if you are black to create your Vitamin D.

Keep taking the cod liver oil, it really matters. And tell your black friends. And dark skinned asians.

This is a worry, especially since various studies are highlighting the importance of Vitamin D or prevalence of deficiency in those badly affected. People should definitely supplement where it's likely that they may be deficient, but it's no doubt easier said than done to get that message out.


 

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BlueJay Flag UK 18 May 20 6.23pm

Vaccine News. Early days but at least it sounds promising so far [Link]

So far the virus has been very stable, unlike the likes of flu and hiv so there is hope on the vaccine front. Massive amounts of efforts and resources are being put into solving this compared to any other coronavirus. Need must and all that.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 May 20 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Government already backing down regarding quarantine of arriving passengers, now saying only passengers from high risk countries, haven’t said what these are. This smacks of bending over backwards to the aviation industry. Can’t believe this, how can they try to stop people meeting in groups and cannot guarantee safety of school children but all and sundry can enter from abroad

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 18 May 20 7.13pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Government already backing down regarding quarantine of arriving passengers, now saying only passengers from high risk countries, haven’t said what these are. This smacks of bending over backwards to the aviation industry. Can’t believe this, how can they try to stop people meeting in groups and cannot guarantee safety of school children but all and sundry can enter from abroad

Completely agree. Helping the aviation industry at the detriment of everyone else. Utter rubbish.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 May 20 7.16pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Government already backing down regarding quarantine of arriving passengers, now saying only passengers from high risk countries, haven’t said what these are. This smacks of bending over backwards to the aviation industry. Can’t believe this, how can they try to stop people meeting in groups and cannot guarantee safety of school children but all and sundry can enter from abroad

Distance and keep clean. Everyone will know this by now even those coming from other countries. People with symptoms will be stupid to go out.
Not saying they wont of course. Asymptomatic are the problem. Keep yourself safe as much as you can and try to avoid others not in your household. The rules are there and have been for weeks. I havent hugged my kid in months as she lives apart and havent seen ma n pa in the same time. Difficult and sad but as needs must to keep us all safe.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 May 20 7.17pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

This is a worry, especially since various studies are highlighting the importance of Vitamin D or prevalence of deficiency in those badly affected. People should definitely supplement where it's likely that they may be deficient, but it's no doubt easier said than done to get that message out.

I'm on prescribed vit D due to my methotrexate for RA. That is possibly also considered a block for C19 even though its immunosuppressive ironically.

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 18 May 20 7.17pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Vaccine News. Early days but at least it sounds promising so far [Link]

So far the virus has been very stable, unlike the likes of flu and hiv so there is hope on the vaccine front. Massive amounts of efforts and resources are being put into solving this compared to any other coronavirus. Need must and all that.

Off all the pictures to use, trust the BBC to pick a chinese looking person as an American scientist . Their attempt at public brain washing to get in the the minds of people has no boundaries

Edited by dannyboy1978 (18 May 2020 7.19pm)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 May 20 7.26pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, if you think that the fact ALL people in the Croydon ITU are BAME is exaggerated then that is up to you. I am reliably informed that many of the people there are slim professionals who probably have a very good lifestyle. The common factor appears to be low Vitamin D. It is normal for there to be low vitamin D early in the year, the nadir is generally during February. Add to that lock-in, which has probably reduced the amount of sunlight for most people, and that you need an awful lot more sun if you are black to create your Vitamin D.

Keep taking the cod liver oil, it really matters. And tell your black friends. And dark skinned asians.

Yet you have left wing politicians and activists telling us daily it’s due to poor distribution of wealth etc etc, yet you’re reliably informed it’s genetic and/or they don’t go out enough. I actually agreed with the lefties on why BAME people were suffering to this, but not on who’s caused it, becUin other decades it would’ve just been other people living in inner London, and som white professionals suffered this before realising they had to work at home.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 May 20 7.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Off all the pictures to use, trust the BBC to pick a chinese looking person as an American scientist . Their attempt at public brain washing to get in the the minds of people has no boundaries

Edited by dannyboy1978 (18 May 2020 7.19pm)

Wakanda was by far the funniest.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 18 May 20 8.08pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Off all the pictures to use, trust the BBC to pick a chinese looking person as an American scientist . Their attempt at public brain washing to get in the the minds of people has no boundaries

Edited by dannyboy1978 (18 May 2020 7.19pm)

I hadn't even noticed; she may well be an American scientist. It seems that my desire to find a cure for a global pandemic was more important to me than the race of the scientist in the jpg. Here's a BBC vaccine article featuring white people to make you feel better [Link]

 

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