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  georgenorman  31 Mar 23 2.33pm |
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Why anyone would consider voting for the bumbling, ineffective, nonentity, that is Joe Biden is a mystery.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Why anyone would consider voting for the bumbling, ineffective, nonentity, that is Joe Biden is a mystery. Easily explained. He might be bumbling on occasions, but he isn't ineffective or a nonentity. No POTUS is ever a nonentity. Most importantly though, when faced with a choice between him and Trump, the majority chose him. That tells you all you need to know.
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| georgenorman 31 Mar 23 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Easily explained. He might be bumbling on occasions, but he isn't ineffective or a nonentity. No POTUS is ever a nonentity. Most importantly though, when faced with a choice between him and Trump, the majority chose him. That tells you all you need to know. Biden is clearly suffering from some form of dementia.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 10.11pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Biden is clearly suffering from some form of dementia. Are you a doctor specialised in the remote diagnosis of dementia? If so, congratulations. You are alone in this world. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was negotiated during the Trump presidency. We simply don't know what it bound the USA to. It is assumed that Biden could have extended the time, but I am not so sure about that. If Trump had remained as President then Putin would have walked over Ukraine, as he would have refused US support for NATO. You blame mass shootings on Biden and the Democrats? Don't be ridiculous. They are the ones wanting more controls on guns, whilst the Republicans are in hock to the NRA.
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| Tunbridge Tunbridge Wells 31 Mar 23 11.18pm |
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Trump a misogynist and racist. Yet you call out woke, think you best look up the meaning! Delusional!
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| georgenorman 01 Apr 23 7.52am |
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Originally posted by Tunbridge
Trump a misogynist and racist. Yet you call out woke, think you best look up the meaning! Delusional! Biden is clearly suffering from some form of dementia. Can you list Biden's achievements for us. (Allowing and encouraging the misogynist Trans groups and racist BLM to run riot doesn't count.) Edited by georgenorman (01 Apr 2023 7.54am)
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| georgenorman 01 Apr 23 7.54am |
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duplicate Edited by georgenorman (01 Apr 2023 7.54am)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 01 Apr 23 8.10am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Easily explained. He might be bumbling on occasions, but he isn't ineffective or a nonentity. No POTUS is ever a nonentity. Most importantly though, when faced with a choice between him and Trump, the majority chose him. That tells you all you need to know. In a free world, that's hardly a choice to endorse the democratic process. And in the US and UK electoral processes, it is possible to secure the majority of votes and still lose. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2023 8.12am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Apr 23 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Even if that were true what has it got to with this? Any drift towards fascist behaviour is to be deplored. As many believe that Trump being charged will help energise his support base, rather than damage his re-election prospects, there is no reason to suppose that this has anything more than a DA keeping his word and following due process. The innocent have nothing to fear from the law, especially those who can afford to assemble the best lawyers to construct a defence. Indeed, knowing how Trump thinks and operates, portraying himself as a victim could easily be part of his play book to detract from his the much charges which seem likely to arrive later. Trump is no "conservative"! He is 100% a fraud, with no central core of beliefs. He deserves to be exposed. Typically disingenuous. You criticise the right and then ask why it's relevant to criticise the left, who are far more often guilty of what you describe. Then, you fail to acknowledge that Trump is being indicted purely to undermine his campaign simply because it might backfire, even though pretty much every even remotely neutral commentator knows this is a shocking misuse of U.S. law. You just waste our time with semantics and political denialism.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Apr 23 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
In a free world, that's hardly a choice to endorse the democratic process. And in the US and UK electoral processes, it is possible to secure the majority of votes and still lose. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Apr 2023 8.12am) I agree it wasn't inspiring, but Biden was a safe choice, after the disaster of Trump. As even Dumb or Dumber would be preferable, Biden was a ray of hope. All forms of democracy can be criticised. The Electoral College seems daft to me, but Biden did secure an overall majority. I want us to use PR, but until we do, we we have will have to do.
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| georgenorman 01 Apr 23 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree it wasn't inspiring, but Biden was a safe choice, after the disaster of Trump. As even Dumb or Dumber would be preferable, Biden was a ray of hope. All forms of democracy can be criticised. The Electoral College seems daft to me, but Biden did secure an overall majority. I want us to use PR, but until we do, we we have will have to do. Apart from you simply hating the man, what was so disastrous about his Presidency?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Apr 23 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Typically disingenuous. You criticise the right and then ask why it's relevant to criticise the left, who are far more often guilty of what you describe. Then, you fail to acknowledge that Trump is being indicted purely to undermine his campaign simply because it might backfire, even though pretty much every even remotely neutral commentator knows this is a shocking misuse of U.S. law. You just waste our time with semantics and political denialism. I have absolutely no problem with anyone criticising the left. I believe there is a thread here in which people like you can rant and rave to your hearts content. Fine by me. If it keeps you occupied that's great. What I object to are attempts to avoid facing criticism via whataboutism. Suggesting the "left are far more guilty" is an example of that, as well as being obviously untrue. That the right claim, and Trump encourages them to believe, that him being indicted is a political act, doesn't make it so. Why on earth should he not be indicted just because he was a POTUS? Innocent men have nothing to fear from being prosecuted. He will have ample opportunity, and very expensive legal help, to clear his name. If any former POTUS had done anything that a Grand Jury (not the DA) had concluded constituted an indictable act, and then them not be indicted just because of who they are, it would be a gross abuse of the law. The law must apply equally to all, and it's vital that the powerful must always be held to account, lest they start to believe they are above the law. Johnson seemed to think that. Trump certainly does. I find it sad that so many in the USA, including senior Republicans, appear to agree with him. It's sad in the USA, but it's really both surprising and pretty disgraceful that anyone here does too. We are better than that. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (01 Apr 2023 9.57pm)
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