Utterly woeful. It's the same issues game after game and season after season with Roy. He's an old dog who could learn a new trick but stubbornly refuses to.

I can't express how annoyed his policies on substitutions makes me. He seems to have the philosophy that if we take the lead everything is going well and shouldn't be touched.

My view is that we have the oldest squad, starting XI and defence in the league and asking the same aging group to play 90 minutes game after game is asking for trouble.

It will come as no surprise that our goal difference in the final 15 minutes (-9) and the number of goals we have conceded in that period (15) are both the worst in the league, with Roy repeatedly refusing to bring on fresh legs. Making attacking substitutions after the game has already gone is pointless.

Similarly I do not understand his absolute blind loyalty to Christian Benteke and his refusal to give Mateta a chance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Benteke. His scoring days are clearly over but as a target man he is still effective.

But the reality is that we are safe now and there is absolutely no reason for us to not give some fringe players a chance in the remaining games. Benteke is out of contract and being linked with a move away, whereas we have Mateta for another season. So why won't we give him a go?

We're still playing the same dross that we've played for 2 or 3 seasons now but aren't even tight at the back anymore. 54 goals conceded is the 4th worst record in the league. I believe I heard them say that we've already conceded more goals than we did last season and that's with City to come this weekend.

I know it's not all Roy's fault and the lack of investment has been criminal but, even with that excuse, his utter inflexibility and refusal to deviate from one mundane script is making watching football so much harder at a time when it's already s*** due to the lack of fans and VAR.

So negative that we were a goal up at half time. We were winning for more than half the game. But Roy is to blame? Start seeing the player's mistakes, rather than the manager's. We played a superior team and didn't get stuffed. They are 3rd in the league.

We made the three most clear cut chances of the game away to the team in third and should have taken a point at least.

So when Roy managed Liverpool and had record low attendance due to his shyte football he was underfunded? And when he was england manager with choice picks he did wonders? Even if he had a font line of Messis, a midfield of Kantes and a defence full of Sergio Ramos hed still bottle it up. Roberto Carlos was right - Sir Roy doesnt kno a lot about football. Not the modern game anyway.

I'm with you on this PZ.

Indeed, and as Potter magnanimously put it after, that’s the beauty of football.

I didn’t think the performance on Monday was negative or boring. The feeding frenzy on social meeja every time a team is announced demonstrates how many have set their narrative before the game has even kicked off.