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Midlands Eagle 04 Sep 22 10.54am
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle She simply does not have a mandate to be Rime Minister from the nation, The nation doesn't vote for the Prime Minister as they vote for their local candidate to become an MP
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04 Sep 22 10.54am

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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

She simply does not have a mandate to be Rime Minister from the nation,

The nation doesn't vote for the Prime Minister as they vote for their local candidate to become an MP

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 04 Sep 22 11.06am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle The nation doesn't vote for the Prime Minister as they vote for their local candidate to become an MP Yup and the leader of that party becomes Prime Minister but in all reality a lot of people vote for a party based on its leader and the press focus of n that leader as the good/bad which influences floating voters. The people rightly or wrongly voted for Boris and many regardless of part allegiance still like him. I am not convinced Truss has the affection of the nation.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The nation doesn't vote for the Prime Minister as they vote for their local candidate to become an MP

Yup and the leader of that party becomes Prime Minister but in all reality a lot of people vote for a party based on its leader and the press focus of n that leader as the good/bad which influences floating voters.

The people rightly or wrongly voted for Boris and many regardless of part allegiance still like him.

I am not convinced Truss has the affection of the nation.

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steeleye20 Croydon 04 Sep 22 11.15am
What a disgrace this is:- The new Prime Minister, almost certainly dreary Thatcher look-alike Truss, will be foisted on us by 160,000 pale, male and stale Conservative members – 96% white, 66% men, 70% over 50 – representing less than 0.4% of the electorate. What a s**t-show.
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Croydon 04 Sep 22 11.15am

What a disgrace this is:-

The new Prime Minister, almost certainly dreary Thatcher look-alike
Truss, will be foisted on us by 160,000 pale, male and stale Conservative members – 96% white, 66% men, 70% over 50 – representing less than 0.4% of the electorate.

What a s**t-show.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 22 11.48am
Originally posted by steeleye20 What a disgrace this is:- The new Prime Minister, almost certainly dreary Thatcher look-alike Truss, will be foisted on us by 160,000 pale, male and stale Conservative members – 96% white, 66% men, 70% over 50 – representing less than 0.4% of the electorate. What a s**t-show. . Tell that to our resident male Conservative member who thinks it perfectly ok for them to do this. Of course, theoretically the MPs could still reject her and choose their own preference. Ultimately it is down to them. They won’t, of course, because of the fear of deselection. What a system! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 22 11.48am

Originally posted by steeleye20

What a disgrace this is:-

What a s**t-show.

Tell that to our resident male Conservative member who thinks it perfectly ok for them to do this.

Of course, theoretically the MPs could still reject her and choose their own preference. Ultimately it is down to them. They won’t, of course, because of the fear of deselection. What a system!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 22 11.58am
Anyone else see Truss on the new Kuenssberg programme this morning? What a total disaster. It really takes a special level of ineptitude to appear even less convincing than Johnson, who must be going around with a big smile. Let this idiot take the flack and be ready to answer the call when it comes. Her jam tomorrow promises of the economy being stimulated by tax cuts, when people have no bread today, isn’t going to impress anyone. Except the tiny numbers who actually belong to the party. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 22 11.58am

Anyone else see Truss on the new Kuenssberg programme this morning?

What a total disaster. It really takes a special level of ineptitude to appear even less convincing than Johnson, who must be going around with a big smile. Let this idiot take the flack and be ready to answer the call when it comes.

Her jam tomorrow promises of the economy being stimulated by tax cuts, when people have no bread today, isn’t going to impress anyone. Except the tiny numbers who actually belong to the party.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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georgenorman 04 Sep 22 12.13pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What a disgrace this is:- The new Prime Minister, almost certainly dreary Thatcher look-alike Truss, will be foisted on us by 160,000 pale, male and stale Conservative members – 96% white, 66% men, 70% over 50 – representing less than 0.4% of the electorate. What a s**t-show. Looking at the actual candidates. Four of the eight candidates were from ethnic minorities, four were females and six were in their 40s. Hardly 'pale, male and stale'.
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georgenorman

04 Sep 22 12.13pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What a disgrace this is:-

What a s**t-show.

Looking at the actual candidates.
Four of the eight candidates were from ethnic minorities, four were females and six were in their 40s.
Hardly 'pale, male and stale'.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 04 Sep 22 12.49pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Truss is clearly a deluded idiot and keen to claim something she wants but does not have. On an interview with Laura Kunessberg today she constantly referred to if she was elected to be Prime Minister. Well she is not being elected to that role. She is by a quirk of our politics being elected as Tory leader and as they currently form the government becomes Prime Minister. She simply does not have a mandate to be Rime Minister from the nation, she merely benefits I suspect because the average Tory party member could not bring themselves to vote for a man with brown skin. She is being elected by the membership of the Conservative Party so she is quite correct to use that term, I don't recall any reference by her to new mandate. The Labour Party has a similarly cumbersome leadership process. There is nothing to force a general election when a party changed leader, similarly we do not have a presidential system so no one ver votes for a prime minister as such. If you throw in an unfounded racist jibe compare the Tory record on diversity with Labour, stupid comment IMHO. The majority of the membership in most polls wanted Badenoch. The 2020 Labour leadership election had 2 mixed race candidates, the rest were white.Only half Indian Lisa Nandy made it to the final three. Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your ideology. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 04 Sep 22 12.49pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Truss is clearly a deluded idiot and keen to claim something she wants but does not have.

On an interview with Laura Kunessberg today she constantly referred to if she was elected to be Prime Minister. Well she is not being elected to that role. She is by a quirk of our politics being elected as Tory leader and as they currently form the government becomes Prime Minister.

She simply does not have a mandate to be Rime Minister from the nation, she merely benefits I suspect because the average Tory party member could not bring themselves to vote for a man with brown skin.

She is being elected by the membership of the Conservative Party so she is quite correct to use that term, I don't recall any reference by her to new mandate.

The Labour Party has a similarly cumbersome leadership process.

There is nothing to force a general election when a party changed leader, similarly we do not have a presidential system so no one ver votes for a prime minister as such.

If you throw in an unfounded racist jibe compare the Tory record on diversity with Labour, stupid comment IMHO. The majority of the membership in most polls wanted Badenoch.

The 2020 Labour leadership election had 2 mixed race candidates, the rest were white.Only half Indian Lisa Nandy made it to the final three.

Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your ideology.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 04 Sep 22 12.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What a disgrace this is:- The new Prime Minister, almost certainly dreary Thatcher look-alike Truss, will be foisted on us by 160,000 pale, male and stale Conservative members – 96% white, 66% men, 70% over 50 – representing less than 0.4% of the electorate. What a s**t-show. Leaps into the lead in the 2022 Most Stupid Post race p.s Have you accepted West Germany is not a country at the moment, to be fair that was one of your more hilarious posts Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 04 Sep 22 12.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What a disgrace this is:-

What a s**t-show.

Leaps into the lead in the 2022 Most Stupid Post race

p.s Have you accepted West Germany is not a country at the moment, to be fair that was one of your more hilarious posts

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 04 Sep 22 1.16pm
Originally posted by HKOwen She is being elected by the membership of the Conservative Party so she is quite correct to use that term, I don't recall any reference by her to new mandate. The Labour Party has a similarly cumbersome leadership process. There is nothing to force a general election when a party changed leader, similarly we do not have a presidential system so no one ver votes for a prime minister as such. If you throw in an unfounded racist jibe compare the Tory record on diversity with Labour, stupid comment IMHO. The majority of the membership in most polls wanted Badenoch. The 2020 Labour leadership election had 2 mixed race candidates, the rest were white.Only half Indian Lisa Nandy made it to the final three. Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your ideology. You have no idea of my political views. You have merely made an assumption based on my views of the current state of the Tory party as demonstrated to my mind by the current process I actually agree with you in terms of diversity across the main political parties and parliament. To be frank I don't see competent leadership across either of our two parties. I am wondering if as things may get more serious what will happen politically as there does not seem to be anything or anyone to unite the nation. But if you want a political opinion, the current government has been asleep at the wheel since they ousted Boris and that has made things a lot worse.
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Orpington 04 Sep 22 1.16pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

She is being elected by the membership of the Conservative Party so she is quite correct to use that term, I don't recall any reference by her to new mandate.

The Labour Party has a similarly cumbersome leadership process.

There is nothing to force a general election when a party changed leader, similarly we do not have a presidential system so no one ver votes for a prime minister as such.

If you throw in an unfounded racist jibe compare the Tory record on diversity with Labour, stupid comment IMHO. The majority of the membership in most polls wanted Badenoch.

The 2020 Labour leadership election had 2 mixed race candidates, the rest were white.Only half Indian Lisa Nandy made it to the final three.

Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your ideology.

You have no idea of my political views. You have merely made an assumption based on my views of the current state of the Tory party as demonstrated to my mind by the current process

I actually agree with you in terms of diversity across the main political parties and parliament.

To be frank I don't see competent leadership across either of our two parties. I am wondering if as things may get more serious what will happen politically as there does not seem to be anything or anyone to unite the nation.

But if you want a political opinion, the current government has been asleep at the wheel since they ousted Boris and that has made things a lot worse.

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Glazier#1 04 Sep 22 3.08pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Truss is clearly a deluded idiot and keen to claim something she wants but does not have. On an interview with Laura Kunessberg today she constantly referred to if she was elected to be Prime Minister. Well she is not being elected to that role. She is by a quirk of our politics being elected as Tory leader and as they currently form the government becomes Prime Minister. She simply does not have a mandate to be Rime Minister from the nation, she merely benefits I suspect because the average Tory party member could not bring themselves to vote for a man with brown skin. Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist?
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Glazier#1

04 Sep 22 3.08pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Truss is clearly a deluded idiot and keen to claim something she wants but does not have.

Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist?

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Sep 22 4.12pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist? All tories are racist. Dint you know that. Right wing means KKK member. Get with the game glazier
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The garden of England 04 Sep 22 4.12pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist?

All tories are racist. Dint you know that. Right wing means KKK member. Get with the game glazier

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 04 Sep 22 4.22pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist? I am suggesting that given the binary choice the party members would rather vote in a white woman than a brown skinned man as leader of their party. This does not have to be down to overt and outright racism, it can be accounted for by other factors. Equally I would for example not suggest all Muslims are religious zealots whose aim is to make the world an Islamic nation or all union members are die in the wool communists.
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Orpington 04 Sep 22 4.22pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Are you suggesting that there i sa a large element of the tory membership that could be racist?

I am suggesting that given the binary choice the party members would rather vote in a white woman than a brown skinned man as leader of their party.

This does not have to be down to overt and outright racism, it can be accounted for by other factors.

Equally I would for example not suggest all Muslims are religious zealots whose aim is to make the world an Islamic nation or all union members are die in the wool communists.

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