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Teddy Eagle 15 Sep 21 8.34pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 There were only 8,000 last year TE, and possibly 15,000 this. Maybe but the estimates range from 450,000 to 1.2m for those already here.
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Teddy Eagle

15 Sep 21 8.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

There were only 8,000 last year TE, and possibly 15,000 this.

Maybe but the estimates range from 450,000 to 1.2m for those already here.

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Stirlingsays 15 Sep 21 8.46pm
They don't care. Never have, never will. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Sep 21 8.46pm

They don't care.

Never have, never will.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Sep 21 8.48pm
Originally posted by jeeagles 16 million people voted to remain. Are you trying to claim that over 8 million people that voted remain were from a immigrants background? The British people voted for the government the British people wanted. we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit. The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country. Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites. Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by jeeagles

16 million people voted to remain.

Are you trying to claim that over 8 million people that voted remain were from a immigrants background?

The British people voted for the government the British people wanted.

we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit.

The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country.

Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.50pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit. The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country. Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites. Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm) All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process. It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation. As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM. I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK. As to whether any immigrants or people from immigrant backgrounds voted for Brexit, well I expect that some did. There are at least three members of the present cabinet that fit that description and they all supported the leave vote in the referendum. When we examine who voted leave it would appear likely that all racists voted to leave but that not everyone that voted leave is a racist. You will need to read that last sentence carefully before you accuse me of calling you or anyone else a racist.
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kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.50pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit.

The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country.

Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm)

All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process.
It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation.

As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM.

I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK.

As to whether any immigrants or people from immigrant backgrounds voted for Brexit, well I expect that some did. There are at least three members of the present cabinet that fit that description and they all supported the leave vote in the referendum.

When we examine who voted leave it would appear likely that all racists voted to leave but that not everyone that voted leave is a racist. You will need to read that last sentence carefully before you accuse me of calling you or anyone else a racist.

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Teddy Eagle 15 Sep 21 10.06pm
Originally posted by kuge All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process. It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation. As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM. I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK. As to whether any immigrants or people from immigrant backgrounds voted for Brexit, well I expect that some did. There are at least three members of the present cabinet that fit that description and they all supported the leave vote in the referendum. When we examine who voted leave it would appear likely that all racists voted to leave but that not everyone that voted leave is a racist. You will need to read that last sentence carefully before you accuse me of calling you or anyone else a racist. You’re alright. If anyone was going to be accused it’d be Will Self who said it five years ago.
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Teddy Eagle

15 Sep 21 10.06pm

Originally posted by kuge

All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process.
It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation.

As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM.

You’re alright. If anyone was going to be accused it’d be Will Self who said it five years ago.

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kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 10.40pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle You’re alright. If anyone was going to be accused it’d be Will Self who said it five years ago. Thanks for the reference, I could not recall when it had originated.
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kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 10.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

You’re alright. If anyone was going to be accused it’d be Will Self who said it five years ago.

Thanks for the reference, I could not recall when it had originated.

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Teddy Eagle 15 Sep 21 10.48pm
Originally posted by kuge Thanks for the reference, I could not recall when it had originated. He probably employed more sesquipidalian circumlocution, palaverous rhetoric, garrulous pleonasticity and prolix loquacity in his statement.
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Teddy Eagle

15 Sep 21 10.48pm

Originally posted by kuge

Thanks for the reference, I could not recall when it had originated.

He probably employed more sesquipidalian circumlocution, palaverous rhetoric, garrulous pleonasticity and prolix loquacity in his statement.

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jeeagles 15 Sep 21 11.31pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit. The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country. Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites. Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm) Which one are you worst at, English or maths? It's hard to tell.
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jeeagles

15 Sep 21 11.31pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

we can be confident that immigrants (and their families) did not vote much for Brexit.

The BBC & Tony Bliar would have been happy to do a Brexit vote 20 years later, after totally doing the country.

Our politicians are not democrats. They are mostly liars & hypocrites.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Sep 2021 8.57pm)

Which one are you worst at, English or maths? It's hard to tell.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Sep 21 11.52pm
Originally posted by kuge All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process. It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation. As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM. I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK. As to whether any immigrants or people from immigrant backgrounds voted for Brexit, well I expect that some did. There are at least three members of the present cabinet that fit that description and they all supported the leave vote in the referendum. When we examine who voted leave it would appear likely that all racists voted to leave but that not everyone that voted leave is a racist. You will need to read that last sentence carefully before you accuse me of calling you or anyone else a racist. Definitely related to the Sage of St Ives. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Sep 21 11.52pm

Originally posted by kuge

All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process.
It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation.

As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM.

I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK.

Definitely related to the Sage of St Ives.

Pro USA & Israel

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jeeagles 15 Sep 21 11.56pm
Originally posted by kuge All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process. It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation. As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM. I expect that analysis of the Brexit vote has been done to death already on this forum. What is clear is that London and many other parts of the country did not vote for it. Time will tell if it was a good idea. I think it was Rees Mogg that said we might not see the benefits for 40 years. Personally, I think that the next 12 months will reveal it to be the greatest disaster inflicted on this country since WWII. It will almost certainly lead to the break up of the UK. As to whether any immigrants or people from immigrant backgrounds voted for Brexit, well I expect that some did. There are at least three members of the present cabinet that fit that description and they all supported the leave vote in the referendum. When we examine who voted leave it would appear likely that all racists voted to leave but that not everyone that voted leave is a racist. You will need to read that last sentence carefully before you accuse me of calling you or anyone else a racist. His statement was that half the people that voted for Brexit were immigrants. We could break it down for him, and point out that if you take all the immigrants with the right to vote in this country, and bothered turning up, you would get no where near half 50% of the 16m people that voted remain. Anyway, back to reality. There is a problem with the left calling people racist too quickly. However, now real racists are using that as an excuse for their actions. We know who the racists are, (I don't think you are one, to be clear) One thing with do know about Brexit, is that it has resolved the Tories issue of the undesirable right wingers it has. Whilst there were some very good reasons for Brexit, some just used it as a front to bash people of different ethnicities (a flawed view - you'd think they'd want to stay in the whitest trading block in the world). Now that minority of bigots have found without Brexit, the right wing of th Tory party has no campaign to use as cover for their opinions, and no longer has any leverage in the party. Now marginalised they will now moan about how the government represents the majority of the countries, in which they are outcasts because of their backwards beliefs. Same thing happened with the loonies in Labour under Blair. Galloway, Livingston, Scargil all kicked out and couldn't come to terms with the idea that they weren't what the electorate wanted.
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jeeagles

15 Sep 21 11.56pm

Originally posted by kuge

All our elected politicians have been elected by a democratic process.
It is in my view a flawed democratic process, far better we adopt proportional representation.

As regards the liars and hypocrites, yes some of them are but I think no party has the monopoly on that and perhaps the worst culprit is our present PM.

His statement was that half the people that voted for Brexit were immigrants.

We could break it down for him, and point out that if you take all the immigrants with the right to vote in this country, and bothered turning up, you would get no where near half 50% of the 16m people that voted remain.

Anyway, back to reality.

There is a problem with the left calling people racist too quickly. However, now real racists are using that as an excuse for their actions. We know who the racists are, (I don't think you are one, to be clear)

One thing with do know about Brexit, is that it has resolved the Tories issue of the undesirable right wingers it has. Whilst there were some very good reasons for Brexit, some just used it as a front to bash people of different ethnicities (a flawed view - you'd think they'd want to stay in the whitest trading block in the world). Now that minority of bigots have found without Brexit, the right wing of th Tory party has no campaign to use as cover for their opinions, and no longer has any leverage in the party. Now marginalised they will now moan about how the government represents the majority of the countries, in which they are outcasts because of their backwards beliefs.

Same thing happened with the loonies in Labour under Blair. Galloway, Livingston, Scargil all kicked out and couldn't come to terms with the idea that they weren't what the electorate wanted.

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DanH SW2 16 Sep 21 12.47am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio speak for yourself there Dan, you self-confessed feminist. Getting back to the OP, surely it would be easy to confiscate these dinghies at source ? the French coastguard doing their job for a change ? I am a feminist. Proudly so. Women are amazing and should have a say in every decision made in this country. But still, tell us all more how you want to stick one up Emma Radacunu. Edited by DanH (16 Sep 2021 12.48am)
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