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Painter Flag Croydon 11 Dec 18 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

Jairo's Palace career came to an end the day FDB was sacked. Roy never signed him so basically is not interested hence why they tried to farm him out to Swansea. Feel sorry for Jairo really as he deserves some starts he can't do any worse than Luka is at the moment

Roy didn't sign Luka either!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 18 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You have to ask, why after playing well against City, he was dropped. We then went on a run, where we ended up 11th, so the decision could be seen to be justified as he had Cabaye and RLC to get in front of. Roy obviously doesn't rate him and tried to offload him to Swansea in the summer.
Its the managers prerogative of players he trusts, Reidewald doesn't appear to be one, one can only assume he doesn't impress in training.
Managers do seem to have favourites, Dowie kept on playing Tom Soares after one good game, only to have nearly 150 crap ones after. On making my way to the ground hearing he was in the team used to piss me off, as I knew he would be useless again, unfortunately he was. Stoke were foolish enough to but him, only to stink the Britannia Stadium out and lasted only 7 games for them.

Tony Pulis signed him for Stoke from us for I believe over £1 Mill and he went to Bury from there on a Free.Saw him play for AFC Wimbledon recently on the TV.Warnock once said that he can be Premier League or Sunday League alluding to the fact that he was inconsistent.

 

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PatrickA Flag London 11 Dec 18 7.45pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

There seems a valid argument that the board have to take some responsibility for the lack of balance and quality in the squad, specifically in the attacking areas.
However, I think Roy has to take some responsibility for not getting the best out of available resources.
He seems to be trying to play the same way as last season , but without Cabaye and RLC.
How are we going to establish whether squad players are good enough if we don’t give them a chance?
There seems to be a blanket acceptance when Roy says there are no options.
With that approach we would never have found out about AWB who only was jntroduced last season as Roy’s hand was forced.
Looking at our results this season what have we got to lose by trying something different?
At the very least we may get a better idea what is required In January.


 

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Bangell Flag Oxford 11 Dec 18 8.07pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You have to ask, why after playing well against City, he was dropped. We then went on a run, where we ended up 11th, so the decision could be seen to be justified as he had Cabaye and RLC to get in front of. Roy obviously doesn't rate him and tried to offload him to Swansea in the summer.
Its the managers prerogative of players he trusts, Reidewald doesn't appear to be one, one can only assume he doesn't impress in training.
Managers do seem to have favourites, Dowie kept on playing Tom Soares after one good game, only to have nearly 150 crap ones after. On making my way to the ground hearing he was in the team used to piss me off, as I knew he would be useless again, unfortunately he was. Stoke were foolish enough to but him, only to stink the Britannia Stadium out and lasted only 7 games for them.

Ah Tom Soares! Eases my agitation with the likes of Sorloth and Schlupp just a little

 

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sprites Flag Auckland 11 Dec 18 8.11pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

According to the interviews with Ray Lewington, Reidewald plays in Milivojevic ‘s position but is not considered as good as him hence why he has no game time. The reason why he doesn’t get on the bench is because he is not an all rounder like Kelly who can slot into a number of positions and Milivojevic is also one of our least injured players so not really needed. Before anyone jumps in this, it is our coach saying it is not an opinion.

Where can we see these interviews, please?!

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Dec 18 8.15pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Honestly it is both.

You have to ask yourself, after 6 seasons of this, do you really believe we can suddenly and utterly change the narrative of Crystal Palace FC, without making a cultural change to the very fabric of how the club is run?

Every year it is basically the same story, and what was it Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over?

If we fire RH, and get a new manager in, it will be a stop gap type appointment I would imagine. It could last a year or 2, then it will probably turn sour, and we repeat the cycle again.

We need someone to come in and build something at this club, RH may not be the one simply down to how old he was when we signed him. If he is going to be fired anyway then Parish and the Yanks must be decisive and take action before the January transfer window, and back the new manager. If we need to sell to do that, then we need to sell, as we are drifting out of the league at the moment.

I hear people saying that recruitment isn't the issue, and that Roy needs to work his squad more and manage better, and so on. Some others say our recruitment, specifically of attacking talent, has been abysmal for most of the cpfc2010 tenure, and Roy isn't to blame. There is truth in all of that.

Parish has come a long way since that first Prem transfer window under Holloway but in many ways he still is, and perhaps will always be out of his depth as a Premier League chairman.

After last season it was plain to see we had 3 major areas of concern re the playing staff. We were losing RLC/Cabaye, we needed a keeper (long overdue), and we needed a striker (long overdue) after Benteke's fall from grace and Wickham questionnable to return to former levels.

We really only addressed 1 of those 3 areas, and we are now paying the price. Roy for his part is at fault for seeming to think we can play the same way with half our midfield missing.

We needed to properly replace Cabaye and RLC, and sign a striker, and we did neither.

If we are constrained so much by FFP that we cannot do better than a net spend under 10 mil last summer then this is a total failure of Parish and the board for sanctioning the Sakho signing. Sakho should have never been signed if it meant we could not bring in adequate replacements for RLC/Cabaye and also sign a striker which would add value.

Instead we bring in Sorloth and Ayew to solve the striker problem, and get in Max Meyer (good signing) and Kouyate (good signing) but in neither one do we have an RLC type player.

Edited by Maine Eagle (11 Dec 2018 8.16pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 18 8.24pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

There seems to be quite a bit of complacency amongst the team. Who's to blame for that?: the manager, the coaches, or the players themselves. I'm very much looking at the latter.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Dec 18 8.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

All I ask is that you consider how all the fans felt every time we got relegated in the past and whether you think we should be more entitled to stay up this time and what the difference is.

I was there for all of them and this would be the worst i felt if it happened.
Mainly as ive got used to the prem.
I know other clubs have gone who were established but i dont have my blood in their colours.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Dec 18 8.52pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

There seems to be quite a bit of complacency amongst the team. Who's to blame for that?: the manager, the coaches, or the players themselves. I'm very much looking at the latter.

Well the manager must be the catylist surely.
Nee chelsea under jose and now manure.

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 11 Dec 18 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Well the manager must be the catylist surely.
Nee chelsea under jose and now manure.

Roy’s already shown us what he can do with a balanced squad and options.

Things are stale because of a lack of centre forward and decent attacking midfield options. Too many functional midfield players.

Personally I’d shake things up and play Sorloth or Ayew CF. The latter had a half decent game against Spurs apart from his contribution to their goal.

These boards were full of people saying we were a better side without Benteke a couple of months back which is utter bollocks despite his lack of goals.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Dec 18 10.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Roy’s already shown us what he can do with a balanced squad and options.

Things are stale because of a lack of centre forward and decent attacking midfield options. Too many functional midfield players.

Personally I’d shake things up and play Sorloth or Ayew CF. The latter had a half decent game against Spurs apart from his contribution to their goal.

These boards were full of people saying we were a better side without Benteke a couple of months back which is utter bollocks despite his lack of goals.

Benteke bought the time for the midfield to push up.
Even without scoring he kept the opponents midfield farther back and not pushing up like they do now.
A bit like we do when the opposition have a striker.
Our midfield doesnt push up unless its a set piece because theyre defending with the centre backs.
Look at luka since benteke has been out so a striker on the pitch with the wingers actually on the wings!

 

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chateauferret Flag 11 Dec 18 10.14pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Benteke bought the time for the midfield to push up.
Even without scoring he kept the opponents midfield farther back and not pushing up like they do now.
A bit like we do when the opposition have a striker.
Our midfield doesnt push up unless its a set piece because theyre defending with the centre backs.
Look at luka since benteke has been out so a striker on the pitch with the wingers actually on the wings!

Yes and so there's f*** all excuse for not using Sørloth like that. He may not be Harry Kane but he is at least a proper unit, and it's better than playing five men in the wrong positions, pissing off the players who should be getting a proper chance, and pardewing everyone all over again.

Edited by chateauferret (11 Dec 2018 10.15pm)

 


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