This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Bias against Trump
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Maine Eagle  USA 12 Oct 19 5.55am |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by cryrst
If it's that important why have us or other countries not sent troops out there. 500 and 150 years ago fundamentalists weren’t driving trucks into crowds of people. This act will directly re energize ISIS, and you know what, this affects you, because your boy Donald thinks the 10000 IS prisoners will escape to......Europe! Lmao. You have no idea what I would be shouting about. Once you get your precious Brexit it will be even harder to stop them infiltrating your homeland. Trump has delivered jack s***, he just deployed more troops to Saudi Arabia, directly contradicting his precious campaign promises, which he has a history of f***ing up, Mexican paid wall, anyone?
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 19 11.43am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I can only go on what is reported across the media spectrum (note across). And that is his rejection of advice from his inner circle, a group with far more experience and understanding of the situation than him. That gives enough context to the did/didn't do question. Let's not forget he also has significant business interests in Turkey. Again, I understand the strategy but I don't agree with the execution. It could and should have been handled better. You are not qualified to make that assessment.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Teddy Eagle  12 Oct 19 11.55am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Maine Eagle
500 and 150 years ago fundamentalists weren’t driving trucks into crowds of people. This act will directly re energize ISIS, and you know what, this affects you, because your boy Donald thinks the 10000 IS prisoners will escape to......Europe! Lmao. You have no idea what I would be shouting about. Once you get your precious Brexit it will be even harder to stop them infiltrating your homeland. Trump has delivered jack s***, he just deployed more troops to Saudi Arabia, directly contradicting his precious campaign promises, which he has a history of f***ing up, Mexican paid wall, anyone? Sorry Maine but is that really a laughing matter? Despite the fact that someone you disagree with might be affected. Next time some maniac shoots up a school in America will that be funny too?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Oct 19 1.25pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are not qualified to make that assessment. I get your angle. Are you qualified to have an opinion on this matter? Or do you just reply to everything with 'You are not qualified to make that assessment'. haha. I can imagine you saying it to yourself when someone asks you advice on pretty much anything that someone more qualified could answer with more authority. Nonsensical dross
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 19 2.01pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I get your angle. Are you qualified to have an opinion on this matter? Or do you just reply to everything with 'You are not qualified to make that assessment'. haha. I can imagine you saying it to yourself when someone asks you advice on pretty much anything that someone more qualified could answer with more authority. Nonsensical dross I accept that I am not qualified to make any observation other than the obvious on this matter,
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Oct 19 4.32pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I accept that I am not qualified to make any observation other than the obvious on this matter, I never professed to know No one other than the orange ape can know What I and others can do is form opinion based on the available material. If no one drew conclusions from anything other than the people who knew then there would be very little discourse at all. And based on the available information I think it’s clear he could have been a little more tactful in the way he went about this escalating mess. We will find out whether he has played a blinder or not in due course.
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 19 5.29pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I never professed to know No one other than the orange ape can know What I and others can do is form opinion based on the available material. If no one drew conclusions from anything other than the people who knew then there would be very little discourse at all. And based on the available information I think it’s clear he could have been a little more tactful in the way he went about this escalating mess. We will find out whether he has played a blinder or not in due course. Precisely, And until then, anti Trump sentiment is hollow rhetoric.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
cryrst  The garden of England 12 Oct 19 8.01pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Precisely, And until then, anti Trump sentiment is hollow rhetoric. Anti trump rhetoric is the in thing to garner appreciation from fellow dems and labour supporters.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| cryrst The garden of England 12 Oct 19 8.02pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I never professed to know No one other than the orange ape can know What I and others can do is form opinion based on the available material. If no one drew conclusions from anything other than the people who knew then there would be very little discourse at all. And based on the available information I think it’s clear he could have been a little more tactful in the way he went about this escalating mess. We will find out whether he has played a blinder or not in due course. And if he has you will praise him?!
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Oct 19 9.31pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Precisely, And until then, anti Trump sentiment is hollow rhetoric. Are you fully signed up then? Love a pussy grab? Complete tool. Imbalanced depressive.
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Oct 19 9.32pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by cryrst
And if he has you will praise him?! Not for the first time... You don’t read I think he has handled the China trade situation perfectly. The problem lies with your immobile partisan position, not my objective one.
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Invalid user 2019 12 Oct 19 11.38pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We helped the Kurds defeat IS in their backyard not the other way around. Our involvement was as much a reaction to attacks inspired by IS in Europe, as well as the heinous propaganda videos of our people, by the same group. We didn't pop over to do anyone a favour. Stating Trump's own talking points may not offer a very complete assessment. Quote
Is Trump now supposed to front up to the third biggest land army with a small force of troops? Is the US supposed to be quaking in their boots at Turkey now? Come on. The whole reason Turkey didn't attack Kurds in that area is due to US troops being there. There would be a heavy price for doing so and so any attack was only going to happen if they left. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R) on Sunday sharply criticized President Trump’s decision to remove U.S. troops from northeastern Syria. “We all know that if there were still those … soldiers, Turkey wouldn’t attack,” Kinzinger, an Air Force veteran, said Also, let's not forget that the US persuaded the Kurds to take down their fortifications and defenses in the area 'last month' due to their promise of joining forces there. Hence, a decision that even many military types find to be rather disgusting. And if others are all in on to the idea that this was a shrewd 'bring em home' move by Trump, perhaps they should also appreciate that Trump ordered 1,800 US Troops to Saudi Arabia the following day. I get that people take political positions, but with this situation it clearly highlights the pitfalls of just slavishly ticking a box based on partisan positioning. What's happened is pretty s***ty and is an act of throwing those the US fought alongside to the wolves. Edited by dollardays (13 Oct 2019 11.27pm)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.