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 Username  Horsham 27 Jun 17 8.50am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Two points. Labour would need 60 more seats to get an overall majority - not going to happen. Second point, Hitler was elected too. Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are?
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 9.05am |
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Originally posted by Username
Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are? The Labour Manifesto was a bit too socialist for our country. I didn't mind it, but I liked parts of each manifesto, especially the 1p increase ringfenced for the NHS from the Lib Dems. I wouldn't vote Corbyn, as alot of my family are still in the military. Voting for someone that has called on cuts in the armed forces I'd be voting on them being removed.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 27 Jun 17 9.05am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Next time you'll have the stain of the DUP, the loss of any credibility in Scotland and Wales, the worsening impact of more austerity, the stark reminder that Grenfell is concerning Cameron's attitude toward health and safety, and the mess that the Tories will undoubtedly make of Brexit given what a poor fist their making of it so far. For Labour not to win the next GE (whoever is in charge of either party) would be a surprise. Lots can change but that's where my money would be right now. The "stain" of the DUP will depend on what happens whilst the coalition is in power. The electorate can be pretty forgiving when things are going well. Grenfell? I don't think any party will come out particularly well. Plenty of Labour Councils, Camden being a prime example have been just as culpable as each Tory Councils. Brexit, Lord only knows what is going to happen but Labour's position with Corbyn in charge is a dangerous one. Plenty of Labour / Brexit supporters resent the way he has rolled over and had his tummy tickled. They know he is getting what he wants, not necessarily what his members want. A lot can happen over the next couple of years. The Tories biggest challenge is who they will have to lead the party. The vast majority of the current crop are seen as out of touch posh career politicians which is ironic when you look at Corbyn.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 9.10am |
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The Stain of the DUP. Sinn Fein believe in the same views. They are very religious. As mkuch as I am unsure where the £1bn is coming from, it is a very good move for the Unionists where the Northern Irtish will see them being able to secure extra funding for their country. If you don't support the DUP in N.Ireland, then you support Sinn Fein. The reason why people on the left do not want a deal to be done, is because the Tories will have to rule as a minority which means a large increase in chance in another election. Corbyn has to get another election in the next year, otherwise the 80% that voted no confidence in him just last year will be doing the same again. Labour lost, Tories can form a coalition. Lets move on. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 9.13am)
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| Face in Wetherspoons 27 Jun 17 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Username
Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are? More annoyed that the BBC and cheerleader of the 'we all love Jeremy'campaign (that included turning Glastonbury into a political rally) is not being sorted out. Us tv licence holders help to pay for this regardless of whether we agree or not. Its about time that the Lefties were rooted out with unbiased reporting becoming the norm. I like to think that most of the general public are more than capable of making considered judgements based on plain and unbiased facts rather than which 'side of the fence' the reporter may be sitting on. Why is it that the Tories doing a deal with the DUP is a bung when Labour offering to wipe off student debt to help get the young vote (with no idea where the money is coming from) not reported as a bribe ?
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 9.25am |
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Don't forget the deals Labour would have had to do to get into Power. - Scottish Independence Ref V2 All of this costs money. Maybe not £1bn. But it would have been a deal with 3/4 political parties. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 9.25am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jun 17 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Hansy
The Labour Manifesto was a bit too socialist for our country. I didn't mind it, but I liked parts of each manifesto, especially the 1p increase ringfenced for the NHS from the Lib Dems. I wouldn't vote Corbyn, as alot of my family are still in the military. Voting for someone that has called on cuts in the armed forces I'd be voting on them being removed. The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Jun 17 9.59am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now. Yes, but Corbyn's idea of 'defence' is inviting various mass-murderers to the House of Commons for tea and a chat. He will be able to buy a lot of scones for 2% of GDP - mind you, as GDP would collapse under Corbyn, 2% might not be a lot.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now. Correct, but he's also called for cuts in the Armed forces. It's easy to redirect defense funding to other places. i.e. Military personnel funding to other places in the military.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jun 17 10.26am |
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Originally posted by Username
Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are? Well you say that, but I'd imagine that the DUP payoff for 10 votes, won't help the Tories who just won seats in Scotland from the SNP. Who knows what will happen.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 10.30am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well you say that, but I'd imagine that the DUP payoff for 10 votes, won't help the Tories who just won seats in Scotland from the SNP. Who knows what will happen. Scotland have Max Devo don't they? As well as a £7bn hole in their budget that the UK covers.
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| davenotamonkey 27 Jun 17 11.28am |
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All this wibble-wailing about the DUP is utterly hilarious. And confected. The sneer on this guy's face at 00:41 is just incredible. Hypocrites indeed. Meanwhile, I thought all you commies were into the redistribution of wealth - what's the problem? Is it only when dear leader suggests it? Got the triple lock back, winter fuel payments, NATO-mandated 2% GDP on defense. If only the Tories had put that in their manifesto, they probably wouldn't be in this mess. Anyway. Just checking to see if Corbyn is PM yet (he still seems to be campaigning).....
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