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  SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 17 May 20 1.16am |
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3 weeks from now we'll know where we stand. My bets are on increase and subsequent revert to lockdown at some point in July. And even if that doesn't come to pass, I'd be willing to bet the house on a significant resurgence in flu season. Schools are scheduled to open June 1, but that's only if the 5 tests are met. In fairness they might be for a week or so due to lag, but I would not be surprised if they don't and that date has to be put back. Or the tories fiddle it so they do. Who knows. Desperate times. I'd be interested to hear any opinions to the contrary, as without a vaccine I simply don't know what other conclusion could be reached.
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BlueJay  UK 17 May 20 1.23am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They started quarantining elderly going into care homes a few weeks ago so not since the beginning of this virus. That’s where your complaint is. No doubt there is still some repairs to the procedures to follow. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 May 2020 1.02am) Let's hope so. It makes a complete farce of everyone else being in lockdown.
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| BlueJay UK 17 May 20 1.26am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
3 weeks from now we'll know where we stand. My bets are on increase and subsequent revert to lockdown at some point in July. And even if that doesn't come to pass, I'd be willing to bet the house on a significant resurgence in flu season. Schools are scheduled to open June 1, but that's only if the 5 tests are met. In fairness they might be for a week or so due to lag, but I would not be surprised if they don't and that date has to be put back. Or the tories fiddle it so they do. Who knows. Desperate times. I'd be interested to hear any opinions to the contrary, as without a vaccine I simply don't know what other conclusion could be reached. The number is bound to go up somewhat, but can we actually afford further lockdowns? The r0 rate is relevant but it's an incomplete picture as it does not differentiate between people who shrug off covid-19 and those who can't. As in, if we're smarter about who we protect and how we protect them, if the actual r0 rate in younger age groups goes up it may be a manageable situation, with the extra capacity we now have.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 May 20 1.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You show your bias in the comments on Sadiq Khan. De Blasio has come over rather well in the presentations I have seen. Passionate, caring and committed. That he gave estimates that subsequently proved incorrect is a common phenomenon of this crisis. He would have not made them up but acted on the best advice available to him. Hindsight being what it is can make the really foolish seem wise, and the very clever seem foolish. We haven't needed the Nightingale Hospitals. Yet! But we have them now, ready for a second wave and so the NHS can resume some of it's currently paused work. I guess your Javits centre falls into the same category. Yes, I dig at Trump because his performance during this crisis is a disgrace and it needs to be called out. Yes, he agreed to send the hospital ship, but made sure he was photographed as it left the dock so everyone would know. If he had refused to send it he would have been hung out to dry! Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 May 2020 12.15am) Stick to talking about what you know? If you seriously think this clown has done or is doing a good job then I seriously question your judgement of character.
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| cryrst The garden of England 17 May 20 8.33am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
3 weeks from now we'll know where we stand. My bets are on increase and subsequent revert to lockdown at some point in July. And even if that doesn't come to pass, I'd be willing to bet the house on a significant resurgence in flu season. Schools are scheduled to open June 1, but that's only if the 5 tests are met. In fairness they might be for a week or so due to lag, but I would not be surprised if they don't and that date has to be put back. Or the tories fiddle it so they do. Who knows. Desperate times. I'd be interested to hear any opinions to the contrary, as without a vaccine I simply don't know what other conclusion could be reached. My mrs works in a school as a dinner lady and a cleaner. She has been doing one day cleaning a week through this and was asked about going back on
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| Stirlingsays 17 May 20 8.56am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
3 weeks from now we'll know where we stand. My bets are on increase and subsequent revert to lockdown at some point in July. And even if that doesn't come to pass, I'd be willing to bet the house on a significant resurgence in flu season. Schools are scheduled to open June 1, but that's only if the 5 tests are met. In fairness they might be for a week or so due to lag, but I would not be surprised if they don't and that date has to be put back. Or the tories fiddle it so they do. Who knows. Desperate times. I'd be interested to hear any opinions to the contrary, as without a vaccine I simply don't know what other conclusion could be reached. The argument against your preference for lockdown has been made many times. Economic destruction kills more than this virus. There is zero guarantee that there will be a vaccine. Hence the Swedish model is the only practical way to proceed. Once society has accepted the new reality crowds come back.
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| Stirlingsays 17 May 20 9.08am |
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A continued lockdown is a vote for continued economic destruction. There are a huge number of people who don't yet realise that they no longer have a job....or will lose it before the end of the year due to economic slowdown. I've already noticed food prices and other products going up and even more worryingly becoming scarcer. The quicker people accept that life has to go on with all its inherent risks the lesser the economic impact will be. Even if everything goes well from here. Taxes are going to go up.....for everyone who works. I'm hoping that Trump wins in November because a Biden victory will see a run on the markets and a much longer world recovery.
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| silvertop Portishead 17 May 20 9.14am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A continued lockdown is a vote for continued economic destruction. There are a huge number of people who don't yet realise that they no longer have a job....or will lose it before the end of the year due to economic slowdown. I've already noticed food prices and other products going up and even more worryingly becoming scarcer. The quicker people accept that life has to go on with all its inherent risks the lesser the economic impact will be. Even if everything goes well from here. Taxes are going to go up.....for everyone who works. I'm hoping that Trump wins in November because a Biden victory will see a run on the markets and a much longer world recovery. Doing so well till the last line.
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| Stirlingsays 17 May 20 9.24am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Doing so well till the last line.
Fair enough....but I have to be honest. I can't see Biden or the Democrats in general achieving any significant economic recovery. And it should be noted that the US Democrats are fully against ending lockdown. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2020 9.25am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 May 20 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A continued lockdown is a vote for continued economic destruction. There are a huge number of people who don't yet realise that they no longer have a job....or will lose it before the end of the year due to economic slowdown. I've already noticed food prices and other products going up and even more worryingly becoming scarcer. The quicker people accept that life has to go on with all its inherent risks the lesser the economic impact will be. Even if everything goes well from here. Taxes are going to go up.....for everyone who works. I'm hoping that Trump wins in November because a Biden victory will see a run on the markets and a much longer world recovery. Boris has made a rod for his own back. He scared the country into the lockdown and now the unions are using his own words against him as he tries to relax it. We can never be 100% safe and the Teacher's and Transport Unions in particular are being difficult I hope their members are more practical though. A friend's son is a teacher in Islington he is doing 2 days a week at the school. The school gave up teaching online as apparently the parents can't afford the equipment. This seems to be replicated across the country in the state sector mainly. The private schools are all working online I guess because the families already have home computers. Some teachers are doing a full week but most are either part time or no time and the kids are suffering. The unions needs to stop politicking and start discussing practical measures to ensure the schools open and are as safe as possible. As for the transport unions most of their members spend their day in a train / tube / bus cab separated from the public. I would remind them that this is a golden opportunity to show the public how vital they are to getting the country back to work but if they want to play silly buggers don't expect much public sympathy when the subject of driverless transport comes up. As for Mayor Khan I think he will get away with his appalling handling of TFL by blaming the virus and the government. A pity because he needs the golden boot up the backside by the voters.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 May 20 9.34am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Let's hope so. It makes a complete farce of everyone else being in lockdown. We quarantined all new entrants for 14 days, including people coming from hospitals. We are capable of that. Some hospital returners who went to hospital without Covid came back with it. That has NOT been the cause of our emergent cases. Those came as a result of staff bringing it in. That is because we were unable to pre test staff until this week.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 May 20 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
As for the transport unions most of their members spend their day in a train / tube / bus cab separated from the public. I would remind them that this is a golden opportunity to show the public how vital they are to getting the country back to work but if they want to play silly buggers don't expect much public sympathy when the subject of driverless transport comes up. As for Mayor Khan I think he will get away with his appalling handling of TFL by blaming the virus and the government. A pity because he needs the golden boot up the backside by the voters. Yes, because cabs are safe
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