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 Bert the Head  Epsom 24 Jun 17 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by simlaboy
We would all be living in tents permanently if that Marxist f***wit gets anywhere to being in charge , A fair day's pay for a fair days work, affordable housing and job security are not that left wing and are pretty much center ground politics outside of the Sun and the Daily Mail. The corporate tax level he proposed was lower than Thatcher had in place. I have read Marx and he makes good points about the problems of Capitalism but I don't share his faith in the dictatorship of the Proletariat. But I certainly think that considering we are the sixth richest country in the world our current model of Capitalism is crap - unless you are rich. It the system that just keeps giving if you are rich. JC is spot on and that is why he is getting so much support despite the bias press coverage. To say Corbyn is a Marxist shows that you are better at echoing cliches than you are at getting your head around political ideas.
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| simlaboy coulsdon 24 Jun 17 9.30pm |
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No cliches , I don't read any papers and haven't done for years , I have my own opinion , to me he is a career politician totally out of his depth,thrust into the spotlight with McCluskeys hand up his arse , and I didn't vote Tory either
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 24 Jun 17 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by simlaboy
No cliches , I don't read any papers and haven't done for years , I have my own opinion , to me he is a career politician totally out of his depth,thrust into the spotlight with McCluskeys hand up his arse , and I didn't vote Tory either So what is your take on Marx?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 24 Jun 17 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
A fair day's pay for a fair days work, affordable housing and job security are not that left wing and are pretty much center ground politics outside of the Sun and the Daily Mail. The corporate tax level he proposed was lower than Thatcher had in place. I have read Marx and he makes good points about the problems of Capitalism but I don't share his faith in the dictatorship of the Proletariat. But I certainly think that considering we are the sixth richest country in the world our current model of Capitalism is crap - unless you are rich. It the system that just keeps giving if you are rich. JC is spot on and that is why he is getting so much support despite the bias press coverage. To say Corbyn is a Marxist shows that you are better at echoing cliches than you are at getting your head around political ideas. Marxism v Capitalism. Take two examples: Germany and Korea were both divided into a marxist and a capitalist half. As time went by, the differences in the economic conditions of the poor in both countries became stark. On the marxist side of Korea there has been mass starvation, the capitalist side prospered. On the marxist side of Germany, the average wage was lower than unemployment benefit on the capitalist side, the capitalist side prospered and a wall was built to stop people escaping from the marxist side. After the world's two most populous countries, China and India, permitted more capitalism in their countries, their economic performance suddenly surged. In every single country that has tried marxism, political oppression has taken place. People have been killed and imprisoned without trial. In the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia, millions died in the marxist holocaust. Political oppression has occurred in every single marxist country. [some of this paraphrased from an article in the Spectator]
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| Jamesey Wandsworth 24 Jun 17 9.39pm |
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Corbyn at Glastonbury...preaching to the converted as ever...young, naive people who see him as an elder sage cum messiah. Fair play to him and whoever are his advisers - they seized the opportunity to plonk him at a youthful assembly which will give massive press coverage May, wrong-footed as ever, was paying homage to the military...worthy in my view but boring and fusty to his increasing youthful support. The PM looks increasingly lost and inept at every turn of the way...if Conservatives are to ever recover from disaster after disaster, she must be overturned.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Jun 17 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Nice shirt...it has to be said. It's not one of those light brown shades your gran's sheets used to be is it?
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| simlaboy coulsdon 24 Jun 17 9.47pm |
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My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera
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| elgrande bedford 24 Jun 17 10.40pm |
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Originally posted by simlaboy
My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Jun 17 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Marxism v Capitalism. Take two examples: Germany and Korea were both divided into a marxist and a capitalist half. As time went by, the differences in the economic conditions of the poor in both countries became stark. On the marxist side of Korea there has been mass starvation, the capitalist side prospered. On the marxist side of Germany, the average wage was lower than unemployment benefit on the capitalist side, the capitalist side prospered and a wall was built to stop people escaping from the marxist side. After the world's two most populous countries, China and India, permitted more capitalism in their countries, their economic performance suddenly surged. In every single country that has tried marxism, political oppression has taken place. People have been killed and imprisoned without trial. In the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia, millions died in the marxist holocaust. Political oppression has occurred in every single marxist country. [some of this paraphrased from an article in the Spectator]
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 24 Jun 17 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year.
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leifandersonshair  Newport 24 Jun 17 10.51pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year. Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Jun 17 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!! There was a great clothes stall in Kensington Market called Marx & Stalin back in the 80's
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