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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Dec 22 8.29am
Originally posted by Mapletree Beard dust makes me sneeze In Conservative incompetence news, this week’s is Tory MP declared bankrupt (despite owning a house worth three times what he owes and having 5 years to sort this out ) but won’t stand down. It used to be that if an MP was bankrupt he had to resign, is that not still the case? If he really owns the house why was this not seized? I am not expecting you to have the answers I just haven't seen this story, sounds odd like the people who pay £250 a month to live in Evelyn Waugh's mansion no one seems to have the full story. Edited by Badger11 (14 Dec 2022 8.31am) One more point
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Beckenham 14 Dec 22 8.29am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Beard dust makes me sneeze

In Conservative incompetence news, this week’s is Tory MP declared bankrupt (despite owning a house worth three times what he owes and having 5 years to sort this out ) but won’t stand down.

It used to be that if an MP was bankrupt he had to resign, is that not still the case?

If he really owns the house why was this not seized? I am not expecting you to have the answers I just haven't seen this story, sounds odd like the people who pay £250 a month to live in Evelyn Waugh's mansion no one seems to have the full story.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Dec 2022 8.31am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 8.40am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well Trump or Farage are as entitled to express themselves as you are. No one makes you watch Farage or Trump do they. Paradoxically, in the case of Farage, your desire to see the Tories split would mean that you'd have to wish him well in his media efforts to gain support. Your solution is in your own hands, just don't watch them. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 12.01am) . Of course I don’t have to. I followed Trump so I could stay abreast of his moods and lies. Knowing what any POTUS is up to is of interest to me. I don’t watch Farage routinely but in idle moments I dip in when controversy is in the air, just to be aware of what is coming down the line. If the Tories do split and Reform gains as a consequence it will be interesting to see if the regulator permits him to carry on as he is now. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 8.40am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well Trump or Farage are as entitled to express themselves as you are.

No one makes you watch Farage or Trump do they. Paradoxically, in the case of Farage, your desire to see the Tories split would mean that you'd have to wish him well in his media efforts to gain support.

Your solution is in your own hands, just don't watch them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 12.01am)

Of course I don’t have to. I followed Trump so I could stay abreast of his moods and lies. Knowing what any POTUS is up to is of interest to me. I don’t watch Farage routinely but in idle moments I dip in when controversy is in the air, just to be aware of what is coming down the line.

If the Tories do split and Reform gains as a consequence it will be interesting to see if the regulator permits him to carry on as he is now.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Mapletree Croydon 14 Dec 22 9.48am
Originally posted by Badger11 It used to be that if an MP was bankrupt he had to resign, is that not still the case? If he really owns the house why was this not seized? I am not expecting you to have the answers I just haven't seen this story, sounds odd like the people who pay £250 a month to live in Evelyn Waugh's mansion no one seems to have the full story. Edited by Badger11 (14 Dec 2022 8.31am) A Member of Parliament going into bankruptcy does not automatically trigger a by-election, unless a bankruptcy restrictions order (BRO) is enforced. The trustee now takes charge of all assets until the bankruptcy is discharged Edited by Mapletree (14 Dec 2022 9.52am)
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Croydon 14 Dec 22 9.48am

Originally posted by Badger11

It used to be that if an MP was bankrupt he had to resign, is that not still the case?

Edited by Badger11 (14 Dec 2022 8.31am)

A Member of Parliament going into bankruptcy does not automatically trigger a by-election, unless a bankruptcy restrictions order (BRO) is enforced.

The trustee now takes charge of all assets until the bankruptcy is discharged

Edited by Mapletree (14 Dec 2022 9.52am)

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 22 10.05am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course I don’t have to. I followed Trump so I could stay abreast of his moods and lies. Knowing what any POTUS is up to is of interest to me. I don’t watch Farage routinely but in idle moments I dip in when controversy is in the air, just to be aware of what is coming down the line. If the Tories do split and Reform gains as a consequence it will be interesting to see if the regulator permits him to carry on as he is now. The world of politics is enticingly fascinating even though it often represents some of society's worse people and effects.....the who's who we obviously wouldn't agree on. However, I don't think I could ever be quite as interested in it as you are. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Dec 22 10.05am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If the Tories do split and Reform gains as a consequence it will be interesting to see if the regulator permits him to carry on as he is now.

The world of politics is enticingly fascinating even though it often represents some of society's worse people and effects.....the who's who we obviously wouldn't agree on.

However, I don't think I could ever be quite as interested in it as you are.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 22 10.20am
This will please you WE. Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve. In twenty years it'll look nothing like it does now.....Same as what happened to London. I'd consider the affect on house prices when your kids come to flog your properties.....presuming all that happens. I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep. Outward population pressure results in even house price segregation being over come. All those high ideal middle class liberals are going to find themselves eventually living the life I had to as a teenager. When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Dec 22 10.20am

This will please you WE.

Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve.

In twenty years it'll look nothing like it does now.....Same as what happened to London. I'd consider the affect on house prices when your kids come to flog your properties.....presuming all that happens.

I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep.

Outward population pressure results in even house price segregation being over come. All those high ideal middle class liberals are going to find themselves eventually living the life I had to as a teenager.

When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Dec 22 2.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This will please you WE. Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve. In twenty years it'll look nothing like it does now.....Same as what happened to London. I'd consider the affect on house prices when your kids come to flog your properties.....presuming all that happens. I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep. Outward population pressure results in even house price segregation being over come. All those high ideal middle class liberals are going to find themselves eventually living the life I had to as a teenager. When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am) Everywhere will welcome those lovely migrants with open arms. Where doesn't want fifty Albanian males who were fleeing absolutely nothing, except drugs debts or criminal records? Every small village should get some. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Dec 22 2.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This will please you WE.

Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve.

I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep.

When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am)

Everywhere will welcome those lovely migrants with open arms. Where doesn't want fifty Albanian males who were fleeing absolutely nothing, except drugs debts or criminal records? Every small village should get some.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 22 2.25pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Everywhere will welcome those lovely migrants with open arms. Where doesn't want fifty Albanian males who were fleeing absolutely nothing, except drugs debts or criminal records? Every small village should get some. They love equality and in a sense, equality is going to be coming their way. Watch them suddenly find issues, no doubt there will be an increase in unwell relatives that some will suddenly need to move closer to. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Dec 22 2.25pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They love equality and in a sense, equality is going to be coming their way.

Watch them suddenly find issues, no doubt there will be an increase in unwell relatives that some will suddenly need to move closer to.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 3.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This will please you WE. Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve. In twenty years it'll look nothing like it does now.....Same as what happened to London. I'd consider the affect on house prices when your kids come to flog your properties.....presuming all that happens. I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep. Outward population pressure results in even house price segregation being over come. All those high ideal middle class liberals are going to find themselves eventually living the life I had to as a teenager. When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am) Seems like a very sensible and practical idea to me, although ensuring sufficient accommodation is available could be a challenge. Sorry to disappoint you though. I doubt whether Cornwall will feature too heavily on the list, as we already have a population inflow. It's not mentioned in the article. It seems more likely to me that either extremely rural, isolated, or just plain unattractive areas, will be the primary recipients. Somewhere like the Fens, maybe? I have had plenty of experience of looking over my shoulder when using an ATM. Some I have used have an armed guard standing watch and each ATM in a separate, enclosed booth in which only one person at a time is allowed. Add to that devices which can be inserted into the money dispenser which traps the cash, and while you go to complain, is stolen. You haven't really lived! You just think you have. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 3.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This will please you WE.

Change is coming....The nicely kept safe and conservative Cornwall of which you love...Well, I guess it's time to evolve.

I say careful what you wish for....essentially, the idealism which you wish for others eventually turns into the practical affects when you find it coming to your own doorstep.

When you feel a far greater need to look over your shoulder at the ATM, perhaps you'll have pause to reflect.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2022 10.29am)

Seems like a very sensible and practical idea to me, although ensuring sufficient accommodation is available could be a challenge.

Sorry to disappoint you though. I doubt whether Cornwall will feature too heavily on the list, as we already have a population inflow. It's not mentioned in the article. It seems more likely to me that either extremely rural, isolated, or just plain unattractive areas, will be the primary recipients. Somewhere like the Fens, maybe?

I have had plenty of experience of looking over my shoulder when using an ATM. Some I have used have an armed guard standing watch and each ATM in a separate, enclosed booth in which only one person at a time is allowed. Add to that devices which can be inserted into the money dispenser which traps the cash, and while you go to complain, is stolen. You haven't really lived! You just think you have.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 22 4.15pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Seems like a very sensible and practical idea to me, although ensuring sufficient accommodation is available could be a challenge. Sorry to disappoint you though. I doubt whether Cornwall will feature too heavily on the list, as we already have a population inflow. It's not mentioned in the article. It seems more likely to me that either extremely rural, isolated, or just plain unattractive areas, will be the primary recipients. Somewhere like the Fens, maybe? I have had plenty of experience of looking over my shoulder when using an ATM. Some I have used have an armed guard standing watch and each ATM in a separate, enclosed booth in which only one person at a time is allowed. Add to that devices which can be inserted into the money dispenser which traps the cash, and while you go to complain, is stolen. You haven't really lived! You just think you have. Blimey! You're right about that, never seen that one. Still, I don't think Cornwall gets to escape anymore than anywhere else....you certainly have the hotels. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Dec 22 4.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Seems like a very sensible and practical idea to me, although ensuring sufficient accommodation is available could be a challenge.

Blimey! You're right about that, never seen that one.

Still, I don't think Cornwall gets to escape anymore than anywhere else....you certainly have the hotels.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 8.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Blimey! You're right about that, never seen that one. Still, I don't think Cornwall gets to escape anymore than anywhere else....you certainly have the hotels. Some of which are currently in use to accommodate migrants. This scheme though is not about temporary accommodation but more permanent settlements. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 22 8.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Blimey! You're right about that, never seen that one.

Still, I don't think Cornwall gets to escape anymore than anywhere else....you certainly have the hotels.

Some of which are currently in use to accommodate migrants. This scheme though is not about temporary accommodation but more permanent settlements.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Mapletree Croydon 14 Dec 22 10.06pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Everywhere will welcome those lovely migrants with open arms. Where doesn't want fifty Albanian males who were fleeing absolutely nothing, except drugs debts or criminal records? Every small village should get some. Albanians aren’t migrants they are illegal immigrants. Unfortunately the Government hasn’t quite got around to dealing with them.
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Mapletree

Croydon 14 Dec 22 10.06pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Albanians aren’t migrants they are illegal immigrants. Unfortunately the Government hasn’t quite got around to dealing with them.

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Dec 22 10.26pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Albanians aren’t migrants they are illegal immigrants. Unfortunately the Government hasn’t quite got around to dealing with them. I worked for Immigration for over 30 years NO Government, whatever persuasion has dealt with illegal immigration. Indeed Blair positively encouraged more immigration so we had a more diverse population. This is fact, as I worked as a Visa Officer at the time When the Government have tried to deal with them they are stopped at every turn by the HRA ( introduced by Blair I believe) and those on the left who do not believe in having any form of border control. Nice to see you admit that many of the Channel crossers are illegal migrants, not all on here agree
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Horsham 14 Dec 22 10.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Albanians aren’t migrants they are illegal immigrants. Unfortunately the Government hasn’t quite got around to dealing with them.

I worked for Immigration for over 30 years NO Government, whatever persuasion has dealt with illegal immigration. Indeed Blair positively encouraged more immigration so we had a more diverse population. This is fact, as I worked as a Visa Officer at the time

When the Government have tried to deal with them they are stopped at every turn by the HRA ( introduced by Blair I believe) and those on the left who do not believe in having any form of border control.
Nice to see you admit that many of the Channel crossers are illegal migrants, not all on here agree

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