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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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 steeleye20  Croydon 17 Oct 22 8.34pm |
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There isn't the slightest sign of any end to the conflict, it is not looking good.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Oct 22 8.47pm |
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The news from RT mainly about the Russian fighter jet crash into buildings in the Krasnodar region, ignition failure apparently. This type of thing is used by Putin and it makes it more popular, not less, it really is perverse.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 22 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Perhaps you should get Telegram, which isn't censored and look at both pro Ukrainian and Russian sources rather than just western ones. Perhaps then you'd be able to look at the videos yourself and decide for yourself. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2022 8.08pm) Or put more accurately, isn't edited, and therefore full of fake news and fake videos.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Oct 22 10.47pm |
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German minister says it knows who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines but to reveal it would be against the national interest. Interesting....but wholly unsurprising from that government.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Oct 22 12.43am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Or put more accurately, isn't edited, and therefore full of fake news and fake videos. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 18 Oct 22 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There isn't the slightest sign of any end to the conflict, it is not looking good. this will go well into next year and possibly beyond. The Ukrainians are rightly not interested in giving up any territory and will keep fighting all the time they are supplied arms from European and NA friends, and probably even if they aren't being supplied. On the other hand the Russians aren't going to un-annex what they've illegally 'annexed'. If/when fighting does stop it gets even messier politically over borders and who is governing where.
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| Matov 18 Oct 22 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
German minister says it knows who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines but to reveal it would be against the national interest. Interesting....but wholly unsurprising from that government.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 18 Oct 22 4.10pm |
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Russia striking Ukraine's' energy systems and they are only just holding on, working around the clock. They need to close the air space but have no means. It will be a very tough winter what can the west do.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is precisely why unedited stories and videos from unknown or unreliable sources cannot be regarded as evidence and should be treated with extreme caution until some collaborating evidence is available.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
How do you know they know? Or are you just assuming that's what they mean, because it fits your narrative? All I know, is that I don't know.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Russia striking Ukraine's' energy systems and they are only just holding on, working around the clock. They need to close the air space but have no means. It will be a very tough winter what can the west do. Both sides need to be squeezed before they go around a table. Russia running short of weapons and trained professional soldiers has squeezed them. Ukraine's infrastructure being damaged may squeeze them. Perhaps this may provide the nudge needed for an internationally appointed mediator to begin a round of talks that can lead to a cease fire and then direct talks.
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Oct 22 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How do you know they know? Or are you just assuming that's what they mean, because it fits your narrative? All I know, is that I don't know. That’s a first !
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