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DivingIsNotGood se25 02 Aug 16 8.03am
According to the Office of National Statistics the EU billed the UK for £19.6 billion in 2015 or almost £376 million each week. The revelation comes after repeated claims by the Remain campaign and its supporters that Vote Leave's battlebus gross figure of £350 million a week going to the EU was "a lie". VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 02 Aug 16 8.03am

According to the Office of National Statistics the EU billed the UK for £19.6 billion in 2015 or almost £376 million each week.

The revelation comes after repeated claims by the Remain campaign and its supporters that Vote Leave's battlebus gross figure of £350 million a week going to the EU was "a lie".

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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the.universal 02 Aug 16 8.12am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood According to the Office of National Statistics the EU billed the UK for £19.6 billion in 2015 or almost £376 million each week. The revelation comes after repeated claims by the Remain campaign and its supporters that Vote Leave's battlebus gross figure of £350 million a week going to the EU was "a lie". In simple terms, if you give me £20 and I give you a tenner, you then have £10. So, to say you have £20 is not accurate. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 02 Aug 16 8.12am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

According to the Office of National Statistics the EU billed the UK for £19.6 billion in 2015 or almost £376 million each week.

The revelation comes after repeated claims by the Remain campaign and its supporters that Vote Leave's battlebus gross figure of £350 million a week going to the EU was "a lie".

In simple terms, if you give me £20 and I give you a tenner, you then have £10. So, to say you have £20 is not accurate.

Vive le Roy!

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DivingIsNotGood se25 02 Aug 16 9.47am
No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along. VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 02 Aug 16 9.47am

No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along.

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Aug 16 10.03am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along. And the EU paid us back £165million a week from that which is what you are not saying all along. Nor have you mentioned the lower cost of goods because of our membership. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along.

And the EU paid us back £165million a week from that which is what you are not saying all along.

Nor have you mentioned the lower cost of goods because of our membership.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 02 Aug 16 10.23am
I don't understand the argument. Logically, in terms of "EU Club" membership fees, it's still £211m per week difference in the EU's favour as well as a significant UK trade deficit in their favour. Not sure where "cheaper goods" are readily available to the UK public after the significant mark up by our middle men. However, I do agree some goods can be cheaper if you purchase them on the continent and bring them in. Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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I don't understand the argument.

Logically, in terms of "EU Club" membership fees, it's still £211m per week difference in the EU's favour as well as a significant UK trade deficit in their favour.

Not sure where "cheaper goods" are readily available to the UK public after the significant mark up by our middle men. However, I do agree some goods can be cheaper if you purchase them on the continent and bring them in.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Aug 16 10.29am
Which makes the EU an absolute bargain as it includes single market full membership which Mrs.Thatcher signed us into. It costs Norway 420 million just to be there and have no say in how it operates thats the sort of trade deal the EU will have in mind. The BRexit has no cards to play.
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Croydon 02 Aug 16 10.29am

Which makes the EU an absolute bargain as it includes single market full membership which Mrs.Thatcher signed us into.

It costs Norway 420 million just to be there and have no say in how it operates thats the sort of trade deal the EU will have in mind.

The BRexit has no cards to play.

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JohnyBoy 02 Aug 16 10.59am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along. The simple maths are: uk total gdp =2.8trillion Central projection for lost gdp by 2019 due to brexit = 5.9% (although it already looks like it will be significantly worse) then 5.9% of 2.8tr = £160 billion lost. Whatever you take the cost of eu membership (i.e gross or net) we would still be atleast £100 billion worse off.....oh and immigration is expected to rise, but it just feels better cos 'we took back control' yeah!
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02 Aug 16 10.59am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

No, in simple terms UK paid more than £350m a week all along, which again is what I was saying all along.

The simple maths are:
uk total gdp =2.8trillion
Central projection for lost gdp by 2019 due to brexit = 5.9% (although it already looks like it will be significantly worse) then 5.9% of 2.8tr = £160 billion lost. Whatever you take the cost of eu membership (i.e gross or net) we would still be atleast £100 billion worse off.....oh and immigration is expected to rise, but it just feels better cos 'we took back control' yeah!

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 02 Aug 16 11.42am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Which makes the EU an absolute bargain as it includes single market full membership which Mrs.Thatcher signed us into. It costs Norway 420 million just to be there and have no say in how it operates thats the sort of trade deal the EU will have in mind. The BRexit has no cards to play. Still don't understand the enthusiasm for full EU membership. We buy more from the EU than we sell to them. We are also a significantly larger market than Norway. Norway pays 420 million what and how frequently? Is it more that the £844m a month net contribution we currently make to have access to a trade deficit and a questionable degree of influence over what? I'd say the Brexit cards are very playable. Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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Eton Mess 02 Aug 16 11.42am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Which makes the EU an absolute bargain as it includes single market full membership which Mrs.Thatcher signed us into.

It costs Norway 420 million just to be there and have no say in how it operates thats the sort of trade deal the EU will have in mind.

The BRexit has no cards to play.

Still don't understand the enthusiasm for full EU membership.

We buy more from the EU than we sell to them. We are also a significantly larger market than Norway.

Norway pays 420 million what and how frequently?

Is it more that the £844m a month net contribution we currently make to have access to a trade deficit and a questionable degree of influence over what?

I'd say the Brexit cards are very playable.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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JohnyBoy 02 Aug 16 12.18pm
Originally posted by Percy of Peckham Still don't understand the enthusiasm for full EU membership. We buy more from the EU than we sell to them. We are also a significantly larger market than Norway. Norway pays 420 million what and how frequently? Is it more that the £844m a month net contribution we currently make to have access to a trade deficit and a questionable degree of influence over what? I'd say the Brexit cards are very playable. Brexit is the biggest busted flush since the south sea bubble...but you are correct, play the hand we have been dealt we must. We have to cut our cloth accordingly. I would say cut the triple lock pension, reduce nhs spending and other public services e.g police and borrow in this cheap monetary bubble to fund infrastructure projects. My brother voted leave. He is a plumber who only worked part time cos he looked after the 2 kids. His wife had a goox job until last week when she was told she would have to reapply for it cos of restructuring due to brexit. He was never the sharpest tool and is now a rabid regrexiter. i had to feel sorry for him when i heard that he was close to tears but he was taken in by the lies although he was told.
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02 Aug 16 12.18pm

Originally posted by Percy of Peckham

Still don't understand the enthusiasm for full EU membership.

We buy more from the EU than we sell to them. We are also a significantly larger market than Norway.

Norway pays 420 million what and how frequently?

Is it more that the £844m a month net contribution we currently make to have access to a trade deficit and a questionable degree of influence over what?

I'd say the Brexit cards are very playable.

Brexit is the biggest busted flush since the south sea bubble...but you are correct, play the hand we have been dealt we must.
We have to cut our cloth accordingly. I would say cut the triple lock pension, reduce nhs spending and other public services e.g police and borrow in this cheap monetary bubble to fund infrastructure projects.
My brother voted leave. He is a plumber who only worked part time cos he looked after the 2 kids. His wife had a goox job until last week when she was told she would have to reapply for it cos of restructuring due to brexit. He was never the sharpest tool and is now a rabid regrexiter. i had to feel sorry for him when i heard that he was close to tears but he was taken in by the lies although he was told.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 02 Aug 16 1.56pm
Originally posted by JohnyBoy Brexit is the biggest busted flush since the south sea bubble...but you are correct, play the hand we have been dealt we must. We have to cut our cloth accordingly. I would say cut the triple lock pension, reduce nhs spending and other public services e.g police and borrow in this cheap monetary bubble to fund infrastructure projects. My brother voted leave. He is a plumber who only worked part time cos he looked after the 2 kids. His wife had a goox job until last week when she was told she would have to reapply for it cos of restructuring due to brexit. He was never the sharpest tool and is now a rabid regrexiter. i had to feel sorry for him when i heard that he was close to tears but he was taken in by the lies although he was told. Is there no level you won't stoop to, to further your own agenda ? Edited by dannyh (02 Aug 2016 1.58pm) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 02 Aug 16 1.56pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Brexit is the biggest busted flush since the south sea bubble...but you are correct, play the hand we have been dealt we must.
We have to cut our cloth accordingly. I would say cut the triple lock pension, reduce nhs spending and other public services e.g police and borrow in this cheap monetary bubble to fund infrastructure projects.
My brother voted leave. He is a plumber who only worked part time cos he looked after the 2 kids. His wife had a goox job until last week when she was told she would have to reapply for it cos of restructuring due to brexit. He was never the sharpest tool and is now a rabid regrexiter. i had to feel sorry for him when i heard that he was close to tears but he was taken in by the lies although he was told.

Is there no level you won't stoop to, to further your own agenda ?

Edited by dannyh (02 Aug 2016 1.58pm)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Aug 16 2.02pm
no this is how Brexit will affect working people.
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Croydon 02 Aug 16 2.02pm

no this is how Brexit will affect working people.

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JohnyBoy 02 Aug 16 2.35pm
Originally posted by dannyh Is there no level you won't stoop to, to further your own agenda ? Edited by dannyh (02 Aug 2016 1.58pm) Err this is your agenda, your decision, no-one to scapegoat now....so when you and the other overweight disgruntled coppers who got passed over for promotion, get yet more cuts, just take a very long hard look at yourself because this is what your cycnical agenda of hate and blame has caused
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JohnyBoy

02 Aug 16 2.35pm

Originally posted by dannyh

Is there no level you won't stoop to, to further your own agenda ?

Edited by dannyh (02 Aug 2016 1.58pm)

Err this is your agenda, your decision, no-one to scapegoat now....so when you and the other overweight disgruntled coppers who got passed over for promotion, get yet more cuts, just take a very long hard look at yourself because this is what your cycnical agenda of hate and blame has caused

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