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silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Feb 22 3.49pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The money whores will squeal like pigs if this situation was used to clean out those ill gotten gains. The politicians are far more comfortable with letting the poor suffer than with endangering the 'loadsa bloodmoney' that fuels the London wealth sector.

The unfortunate reality is that the poor would suffer more if they did....then again they are going to anyway.

Sadly they won't squeal at all. They are closely aligned to any government and will simply have a quiet word.

Any sanctions will be symbolic and pain free for the City.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 24 Feb 22 3.49pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Did you comment on the trump and Ukraine thread?

Certainly. On the whole, I viewed Trump as I view Biden - the result of a broken system. I would say that Putin has sensed weakness now and an opportunity, and that there is a need internationally for a united front as result of that.

Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 3.50pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 24 Feb 22 3.53pm

Originally posted by mezzer

Don't always agree with you but I do on this.

People are generally behaving as if they are dealing with someone rational. I fear he's not.

I've just heard something that has chilled me. I have no idea whether it's true or not but it's come from someone high up in a biotech company but I can't vouch for its authenticity. I hope it's not true but there's rumour that Putin's suffering from cancer. If true, what's he got to lose? We're all in the firing line of whatever he wants to leave as his legacy.

Same, Hrolf has been dead on with this. Credit where its due.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Feb 22 3.54pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Georgia and Crimea were pretty much a significant majority of Russian people.....East Ukraine is about fifty fifty if I remember correctly a situation created around Soviet history. This is an obvious problem for cohesion....but hey.

Most people don't know much about Ukraine or its history, nor know or care about vested interests. It's an easy job for the media to paint pictures that omit anything nuanced. They write the 'light and dark, good and evil' song and the listeners sing along.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Feb 2022 2.23pm)

Yeah Stirling but read the post you're responding to.

EU are worse than Russia.

Discuss.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Feb 22 3.55pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A thoughtless pr!ck watching on we no risk to himself or for others.

Classy . Nice to see another troll taking on the mantle of so many absent friends on here.

I better not tell you anything about MY family lest you get even more vitriolic with the insults ?

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Feb 22 3.55pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not that it makes a huge difference but the Ukraine isn't a democracy.

Neither was Poland

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 22 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Your views and where you have found yourself are your problem and for those around you to attempt to navigate. It's not something others have to find any particular relevance in. It's a hole you're dug yourself, there will be no back and forth about it, here or over DM. I'll bring your diversion back to the topic at hand. If you end up with you trying to turn this Russian situation into another ten pager about how terrible ethnic diversity is, when that's at best one dimension of this, you will be guided back on track.

I'll say precisely what I want to say...what you think about it will make approximately no difference. If you don't like what I say post at someone else.

There is an very real ethnic component to this crises, however wider specific debates or personal discussion away from Ukraine were not my aim and if that's what you think you are wrong.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 22 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Neither was Poland


The important difference is that it's in Nato now.


 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Feb 22 3.59pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Merkel's decision to flood western Europe with men from the third World has totally broke the Social Contract in the West.


Would you fight to defend Europe ? Cos I would rather drink Russian vodka and cheer from the sidelines

They don't serve vodka in gulags.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Feb 22 4.00pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Yeah Stirling but read the post you're responding to.

EU are worse than Russia.

Discuss.

Western Europe is dying from old age and a replacement by young men from beyond its borders.

The EU has presided over the death of Europe.

Northern Italy, Germany, thornton heath, etc

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Feb 2022 4.03pm)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 Feb 22 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

It looks like everyone wanted a kind of conflict.
Western countries try to expand NATO to the east.
Russia uses leverage to re-take Ukraine under the USSR banner.
Western countries might get to sell some arms

It distracts Western populations from the recent 5hlt governance we've endured.

When this gets really heavy, we may see a boycott of the Russian F1 GP, or banning Russian teams from the World Cup and Olympics.
Scary stuff

Meanwhile, other big players sit back and see if there are any takings. India, pakistan, Gulf states, china and of course insurgent terrorist groups.

Inflation in the UK is going to be extremely harsh, especially for fuel/power.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (24 Feb 2022 4.06pm)

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 22 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Yeah Stirling but read the post you're responding to.

EU are worse than Russia.

Discuss.

We both know what he's referring too.

I don't defend the Russian invasion of Ukraine....I don't defend the destruction of innocent lives.

East Ukraine is a very complex situation and that would be a long long post but I think other means are and were available.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Feb 2022 4.06pm)

 


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