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 Teddy Eagle  31 Jan 21 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We need to take decisions which have the greatest impact on reducing the overall spread of the pandemic, the potential of the virus to mutate in a way which negates the effectiveness of vaccines and protects the greatest number of people as a consequence. That doesn't always mean doing what people on the Hol want to do. It might mean listening to the experts. Let’s look forward to the EUs consolidated approach to vaccinating the developing world then. The “experts” are already saying it’ll be “two or three years” until we get back to normal by which time mutations are inevitable.
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the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jan 21 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
How likely that is, is up for debate, but it was objectively a bad decision because if you'd have gone a couple of weeks later instead, for your own health at least, you would've been in a very different situation. With regard to others health so knows, as the data isn't fully in on a vaccinated persons ability to pass it on. You made a mistake. But hopefully you'll get away with it. Now go and enjoy your holiday rather than moaning on here Got tested at Dubai airport...NEGATIVE... Sorry to disappoint you all...moaning? Moi? Only at the superior being on here ! Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 12.29pm)
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.| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jan 21 12.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don't flatter yourself. I am, and was not, the least bit wound up. All I did was point out your hypocrisy then and now. I would do the same for anyone who was publically suggesting that they proposed ignoring the rules as you did then, and have again done recently, but especially for you given your aggressiveness and rudeness in the past. Purely to encourage others not to. Maybe my words helped discourage you from actually going ahead. If so it worked. Shaming people can have that effect, even for the determinedly stupid. Your words did NOTHING..I wasn't going to Cornwall anyway....IVE BROKEN NO LAWS..... Except in your head wissie, never encouraged anyone else to do so either...like your insults tho, keep it up it's funny. Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 12.28pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 21 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Let’s look forward to the EUs consolidated approach to vaccinating the developing world then. The “experts” are already saying it’ll be “two or three years” until we get back to normal by which time mutations are inevitable. It's not just the EU as it has to involve the whole developed world and that can only realistically be co-ordinated by the WHO. Hopefully, the current vaccines will continue to provide sufficient protection to mutations, mitigate the impact and prevent severe disease. If my understanding is correct we are likely to all have to have an annual vaccination which responds to the current prevalent strain, much as we do now with the flu and this may be possible as a combination vaccine.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 21 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Your words did NOTHING..I wasn't going to Cornwall anyway....IVE BROKEN NO LAWS..... Except in your head wissie, never encouraged anyone else to do so either...like your insults tho, keep it up it's funny. Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 12.28pm) I'm quite sure I could find the messages in which you described your intended trip, giving details of the family you have there and the location being Blackwater. Are you saying they don't exist? Or are you now claiming it was all just a wind-up for your amusement> Which would be a pretty unlikely thing and a very stupid one if true. It's not me who is superior. Everyone who follows the guidelines, as best they can, and accepts the responsibility to do their bit towards beating the pandemic, is superior to the dumb bunnies who think they know better and that their own circumstances mean that they are entitled to be selfish. I haven't seen either of my daughters at all, not once, for over a year. Nor 3 of my 4 grand-children although one came for a holiday in the summer. I have a great-granddaughter I haven't yet even seen once and another, like her Mum, not for a year. It's tough but it's the same for all of us.
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| Teddy Eagle 31 Jan 21 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not just the EU as it has to involve the whole developed world and that can only realistically be co-ordinated by the WHO. Hopefully, the current vaccines will continue to provide sufficient protection to mutations, mitigate the impact and prevent severe disease. If my understanding is correct we are likely to all have to have an annual vaccination which responds to the current prevalent strain, much as we do now with the flu and this may be possible as a combination vaccine. It seems inevitable that it becomes an annual event, as you say, and if it means avoiding future lockdowns then I’m all for it.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jan 21 1.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I'm quite sure I could find the messages in which you described your intended trip, giving details of the family you have there and the location being Blackwater. Are you saying they don't exist? Or are you now claiming it was all just a wind-up for your amusement> Which would be a pretty unlikely thing and a very stupid one if true. It's not me who is superior. Everyone who follows the guidelines, as best they can, and accepts the responsibility to do their bit towards beating the pandemic, is superior to the dumb bunnies who think they know better and that their own circumstances mean that they are entitled to be selfish. I haven't seen either of my daughters at all, not once, for over a year. Nor 3 of my 4 grand-children although one came for a holiday in the summer. I have a great-granddaughter I haven't yet even seen once and another, like her Mum, not for a year. It's tough but it's the same for all of us. Oh they all exist my superior friend...I did actually go there the previous Christmas...and planned to go this christmas until it became impossible I didn't give details of family especially to you. I just wound you up a bit I know you are not superior you just think.you Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 1.13pm) Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 1.15pm)
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BlueJay  UK 31 Jan 21 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Got tested at Dubai airport...NEGATIVE... Sorry to disappoint you all...moaning? Moi? Only at the superior being on here ! Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 12.29pm) You got vaccinated a week before you went somewhere which was a waste of time for the purpose of this trip. Much in the same way testing negative upon arrival tells you nothing about whether you actually are positive due to travelling and flying as that would take days to manifest itself anyway. So all of the concerns I stated still apply really. But as I said, hopefully your roll of the dice will end in a best case scenario for you and yours rather than worst. Edited by BlueJay (31 Jan 2021 2.19pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 31 Jan 21 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No, we shouldn't vaccinate all our own first if it isn't actually in their best interests to do so. That's why it's complicated and we need to listen to the experts. I am not an expert but I am prepared to admit they know more than me. Are you? The EU have got themselves embroiled in a very silly public row which does no-one any favours. Emotions have spilled over and hopefully everyone will now dampen them down and work together in our mutual interests. Have you had yours?
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jan 21 3.09pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
You got vaccinated a week before you went somewhere which was a waste of time for the purpose of this trip. Much in the same way testing negative upon arrival tells you nothing about whether you actually are positive due to travelling and flying as that would take days to manifest itself anyway. So all of the concerns I stated still apply really. But as I said, hopefully your roll of the dice will end in a best case scenario for you and yours rather than worst. Edited by BlueJay (31 Jan 2021 2.19pm) Waste of time? I didn't have the Vax just do I could go on my holiday, I was called for it so I went along. The doctor didn't seem to think so, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of things medical. The testing people at the airport didn't seem to think so either..if what you're saying is true then there is no point in testing if negative is the same as positive....I mean if you test negative and they let you in, they obviously think its ok, so I'll go along with their views if that's ok? Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 3.13pm)
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jan 21 3.11pm |
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. Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 3.12pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 31 Jan 21 3.22pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Waste of time? I didn't have the Vax just do I could go on my holiday, I was called for it so I went along. The doctor didn't seem to think so, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of things medical. The testing people at the airport didn't seem to think so either..if what you're saying is true then there is no point in testing if negative is the same as positive....I mean if you test negative and they let you in, they obviously think its ok, so I'll go along with their views if that's ok? Edited by the silurian (31 Jan 2021 3.13pm) I think the point, which you appear to be wilfully missing, is that the vaccines all take at least two and normally three weeks to offer any meaningful protection. The other point being made was if you caught COVID on the flight then you would have little immunity but would not show as positive in a test. That would take 3 to 5 days in most cases. So travelling isn't a bright thing to do. I don't think I need to say more. Edited by Mapletree (31 Jan 2021 3.42pm)
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