That was BLM all summer unfortunately. Very divisive. It went further. Either you’re doing something or you’re racist. One or the other, simple as that. No such thing as having said the wrong thing or made a mistake or done something ‘racist’ which you may not have even known about. No, having done something racist or not doing something proactive to tackle racism somehow was replaced with being labelled as racist. You’ve got to hand it to BLM, they managed primary school playground logic to make millions of people fall in line. Quite remarkable, all helped by everyone off work already losing their sanity.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Dec 2020 11.37am)

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Yes I spotted that one and I think there’s probably a lot of truth with some of them on there. There are a few decent chaps on there and it’s a good place to read the dissection of CPFC accounts. But when it gets political it’s embarrassing and shows why and thankfully how we’re not a socialist country. Actually I don’t know why they don’t f*** off to where there is one. Probably waiting for England’s inevitable fall into socialism as more voters are imported into England.

This one seems to have forgotten we aren’t America. Can’t be surprised from these dorks....

‘I wonder why people might riot when the only time that the police get held to account for their actions, is when people are angry. I'm not here to condone rioting, but compared to the way that police killings of unarmed Black People in the US have been justified on the slightest pretences, its not surprising.

30 Years on from Rodney King, and the only way to get justice against the police is through rioting.

Flag burning and Statue Destruction, who cares, burning flags and toppling statues is hardly on a par with state approved lethal violence. A flag is a symbol, you burn it as such, to display your anger at injustice. Statues are just stone, when what you're comparing them to is a history of crimes perpetrated on flesh.’

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Dec 2020 11.45am)

COYP

I didn't "avoid" the "proud boy" reference. I ignored it as irrelevant because it is. This is what you wrote:-

"Can you imagine what these people would say if other groups started to adopt the gestures of say....the proud boys and then claimed the same thing"

It's irrelevant because its demonstrably and unarguably untrue. Why? Because as has been repeatedly proven in this thread those who are "taking the knee" are NOT adopting the gesture of the political movement which calls itself BLM.

It's not just me, and other posters here saying so. It's the people doing it, the players, their employers and their association.

So that is a fact. This isn't Trumpland, even if you want it to be, where "alternative facts" are regarded as the truth in some quarters.

If anyone disagreed with the gesture I am certain they would not, and indeed could not, be forced to comply. They might well cause an upset in the dressing room but that's another matter which, if they feel strongly enough about they will overcome.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Only in minds like yours who want to see genuine protests ruined because they don't like them.

The rest of us can easily discern the difference. Especially when it's this obvious.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Any player in the top flight taking a stand, sorry, would be destroyed within minutes of the match. You of course know this.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Dec 2020 11.56am)

COYP

Protesting about a man killed in another country. Vandalising proud national monuments and attacking and running the police all over the place. Yes, very genuine. Later we got to see the two tier policing with the lockdown protests.

I’ve already said I think things like custodial sentences and history in the school curriculum should probably change. But you accuse me of wanting to ruin protests. Unlike you I’d prefer to see an actual change rather than anarchy or physical gestures that have other meanings which we all saw in central London on riot days to confirm it all to begin with.

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