And you can say the same for the blue side especially rural middle England.

" Still " obviously means now, not at the last election.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Perhaps we are witnessing the death of the traditional parties. It seems a lot about Social Media these days. Labour just seem disconnected from their original base. I used to be one, but would never have voted for Corbyn's Labour. The last I liked was John Smith. Starmer is the safe choice, probably has a chance when people are bored with the Tories. Nothing will change until politics is completely overhauled. I can't help but think our current system, in plenty of Western democracies, is not fit for purpose. I presume new parties will emerge, parties that will be more relevant to modern life.

Red and Blue Army!

The Lib Dems gained the seat from the Conservatives in 2017 and held on to it in 2019.
Us Conservatives held the seat from the 1930s until 1992. Chris Patten who had been MP for several years lost his seat to the Lib Dem candidate in the 1992 General Election.

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Poor old Keir should give up and go back to being a very effective barrister.
Surrounded by non entities in his shadow cabinet,particularly dreary,dopey people like Dodds,education secretary and Ashworth who all underwent charisma bypass surgery,he was sadly,doomed from the start.

Of the three Labour leaders that have won elections since the war. Two were barristers.

On matters of conscious he's pretty good. It just seems like Labour have no policy. Their core supporter base has shifted since Momentum took control of the party and the sole intention is to have a throwback socialist labour party who do nothing more than call all conservative voters scum.

Starmer's main battle coming up isn't to win an election, he needs to straighten out the party. Corbyn's leadership was akin to Farrage taking control of the Tories and infiltrating it with moronic UKIPpers that have chased out all the talent.

Personally, I think what traditional Labour voters want to see is a party that offers pragmatic ideas to support those less well off, policy to match changing technology and economic conditions, a hard line on crime, acceptance of the referendum decision (even reluctantly), and less of this spiteful ideology which seems to be directed at the rich but helps no one.

It seems the only solution at the moment is to set up a new party, as Labour won't be escaping the clutches of the lunatics any time soon.

Lib Dem are still failing to fill the gap as they just seem too soft on everything, always trying to be a middle man and never being decisive.