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steve1984 09 Jan 19 9.01am
My dog's name is Brian.
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steve1984 09 Jan 19 9.01am

My dog's name is Brian.

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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 19 9.10am
Originally posted by steve1984 My dog's name is Brian. Family guy? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Jan 19 9.10am

Originally posted by steve1984

My dog's name is Brian.

Family guy?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steve1984 09 Jan 19 9.25am
Never watched it - we don't have a telly. No more like "The Life of...", we have another called Avi (as in Avraham). We're only missing the cat called Mohamed for the full set. Attachment: IMG_2332.JPG (2,112.71Kb)
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steve1984 09 Jan 19 9.25am

Never watched it - we don't have a telly.

No more like "The Life of...", we have another called Avi (as in Avraham). We're only missing the cat called Mohamed for the full set.

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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 19 9.30am
Originally posted by steve1984 Never watched it - we don't have a telly. No more like "The Life of...", we have another called Avi (as in Avraham). We're only missing the cat called Mohamed for the full set. No telly? Pray tell. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Jan 19 9.30am

Originally posted by steve1984

Never watched it - we don't have a telly.

No more like "The Life of...", we have another called Avi (as in Avraham). We're only missing the cat called Mohamed for the full set.

No telly?

Pray tell.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jan 19 9.42am
Originally posted by pefwin I think he is signing himself off as Gusset. Ha ha Closest i get is the mrs cacks.
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The garden of England 09 Jan 19 9.42am

Originally posted by pefwin

I think he is signing himself off as Gusset.

Ha ha
Closest i get is the mrs cacks.

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steve1984 09 Jan 19 1.08pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays No telly? Pray tell. I'd rather read a book, or listen to music or watch a movie. Or even talk to her indoors.
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steve1984 09 Jan 19 1.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No telly?

Pray tell.

I'd rather read a book, or listen to music or watch a movie. Or even talk to her indoors.

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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 19 1.23pm
Originally posted by steve1984 I'd rather read a book, or listen to music or watch a movie. Or even talk to her indoors. Frigging hell! You're some kind of dangerous radical. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Jan 19 1.23pm

Originally posted by steve1984

I'd rather read a book, or listen to music or watch a movie. Or even talk to her indoors.

Frigging hell!

You're some kind of dangerous radical.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 09 Jan 19 3.38pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Maybe it's actually just a preference? Of course it is their preference and their desire. Does this make it acceptable? Absolutely not, we cannot sustain the numbers that are arriving, it is not just the odd inflatable from France. They are arriving everyday at Gatwick/Heathrow/Dover/Newhaven. People who say they should be welcomed and have a right to be here think about the following: 1) Who are they? They arrive undocumented so can/do give any personal details 2) If they fear for their lives in Iran (or wherever)why are they predominantly young men who, if married, have left their wives behind? 3) You cannot also complain that the NHS/housing are stretched to the limit. For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years
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Horsham 09 Jan 19 3.38pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Maybe it's actually just a preference?

Of course it is their preference and their desire. Does this make it acceptable? Absolutely not, we cannot sustain the numbers that are arriving, it is not just the odd inflatable from France. They are arriving everyday at Gatwick/Heathrow/Dover/Newhaven.
People who say they should be welcomed and have a right to be here think about the following:
1) Who are they? They arrive undocumented so can/do give any personal details
2) If they fear for their lives in Iran (or wherever)why are they predominantly young men who, if married, have left their wives behind?
3) You cannot also complain that the NHS/housing are stretched to the limit.

For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years

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Spiderman Horsham 09 Jan 19 3.41pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Maybe it's actually just a preference? Of course it is their preference and their desire. Does this make it acceptable? Absolutely not, we cannot sustain the numbers that are arriving, it is not just the odd inflatable from France. They are arriving everyday at Gatwick/Heathrow/Dover/Newhaven. People who say they should be welcomed and have a right to be here think about the following: 1) Who are they? They arrive undocumented so can/do give any personal details 2) If they fear for their lives in Iran (or wherever)why are they predominantly young men who, if married, have left their wives behind? 3) You cannot also complain that the NHS/housing are stretched to the limit. For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years
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Spiderman

Horsham 09 Jan 19 3.41pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Maybe it's actually just a preference?

For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Jan 19 3.45pm
Keep saying it, they still won’t get it because it’s out of sight and out of mind. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 09 Jan 19 3.45pm

Keep saying it, they still won’t get it because it’s out of sight and out of mind.

COYP

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Mapletree Croydon 09 Jan 19 3.49pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Of course it is their preference and their desire. Does this make it acceptable? Absolutely not, we cannot sustain the numbers that are arriving, it is not just the odd inflatable from France. They are arriving everyday at Gatwick/Heathrow/Dover/Newhaven. People who say they should be welcomed and have a right to be here think about the following: 1) Who are they? They arrive undocumented so can/do give any personal details 2) If they fear for their lives in Iran (or wherever)why are they predominantly young men who, if married, have left their wives behind? 3) You cannot also complain that the NHS/housing are stretched to the limit. For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years I agree with number 1 but remember the asylum process is pretty thorough. It is before successfully completing that process where there is an issue. But number 2 I have previously opined upon. If you want to move your family you send a man first. Women are in real danger on the journey. It only takes one member of the family to successfully claim asylum for the rest of the nuclear family to be allowed to join that person in the UK. Regarding 3, immigrants historically are far less demanding on the NHS and on housing than indigenous people but pay more on average in taxes. So it is they that are funding the established population. We need to adjust the system to the demand they bring, they easily pay for themselves. And they are also highly over-represented in NHS employees. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 3.50pm)
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Mapletree

Croydon 09 Jan 19 3.49pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

For those who feel my reply is that of a racist/xenophobe you could not be further from the truth, just that of someone who has been dealing with these people over many years

I agree with number 1 but remember the asylum process is pretty thorough. It is before successfully completing that process where there is an issue.

But number 2 I have previously opined upon. If you want to move your family you send a man first. Women are in real danger on the journey. It only takes one member of the family to successfully claim asylum for the rest of the nuclear family to be allowed to join that person in the UK.

Regarding 3, immigrants historically are far less demanding on the NHS and on housing than indigenous people but pay more on average in taxes. So it is they that are funding the established population. We need to adjust the system to the demand they bring, they easily pay for themselves. And they are also highly over-represented in NHS employees.

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 3.50pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 19 4.05pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I agree with number 1 but remember the asylum process is pretty thorough. It is before successfully completing that process where there is an issue. But number 2 I have previously opined upon. If you want to move your family you send a man first. Women are in real danger on the journey. It only takes one member of the family to successfully claim asylum for the rest of the nuclear family to be allowed to join that person in the UK. Regarding 3, immigrants historically are far less demanding on the NHS and on housing than indigenous people but pay more on average in taxes. So it is they that are funding the established population. We need to adjust the system to the demand they bring, they easily pay for themselves. And they are also highly over-represented in NHS employees. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 3.50pm) You need to explain this as it makes no sense without context. There are far more 'indigenous' people for starters and how exactly do illegals and other assorted immigrants pay more tax? They have been here five minutes and many are in low paid jobs. Show us the data.
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09 Jan 19 4.05pm

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I agree with number 1 but remember the asylum process is pretty thorough. It is before successfully completing that process where there is an issue.

Regarding 3, immigrants historically are far less demanding on the NHS and on housing than indigenous people but pay more on average in taxes. So it is they that are funding the established population. We need to adjust the system to the demand they bring, they easily pay for themselves. And they are also highly over-represented in NHS employees.

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 3.50pm)

You need to explain this as it makes no sense without context.
There are far more 'indigenous' people for starters and how exactly do illegals and other assorted immigrants pay more tax? They have been here five minutes and many are in low paid jobs.

Show us the data.

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